Apple...........OWNED

[Shayne]

 

vs.



...the "Super Shuffle" has an FM tuner, voice recorder and WMA support where as the Apple version does not.

[Mr. Analog]

 It last long time! You see!

[Shayne]

 ...i cant wait till some apple "fan" site gets a hold of one of these and disects it only to find the exact same chips and board manufacturers.

Coming to an Ebay near you!

[Mr. Analog]

 The "Super Shuffle" has been *cough* re-imagined with a slightly different button layout, it is now the Super Tangent, all evidence of a prior attempt has vanished from Luxpro's site.

See, now it's no longer a knock-off, it's a totally different device. . .

I bet the instruction manual for this one is full of good grammar.

[Shayne]

 Nice stereotype Mr.A :angry:

...i think its a great product, id rather have the much more verbose and realized Super Tangent over the over priced under functioned iPod Shuffle.  

[Darren Dirt]

Nice stereotype Mr.A :angry:

Hey, and he should know from Asian stereotypes!

*wimpers in awe at Mr. A's anime-viewing experience*

[Mr. Analog]

Nice stereotype Mr.A :angry:

Deal with it.

Mosf of the gadgets, devices and doodads I've ordered from overseas have always had near incomprehensible instruction booklets, and not just small ticket items either; camera & video equiment, computer parts, etc. So until I see otherwise I stand by my assertation.

[Shayne]

 

Mosf of the gadgets, devices and doodads I've ordered from overseas have always had near incomprehensible instruction booklets, and not just small ticket items either; camera & video equiment, computer parts, etc. So until I see otherwise I stand by my assertation.

Pulled from a Luxpro user manual at random...

World?s First Combo MP3 Player
The world?s first combo MP3 Player combines the functions
of audio language learning, MP3 player, voice recording,
FM tuner, and USB flash drive into one with 5000 practical
sentences in various languages.

Supports multi-languages display including
Chinese, English and Japanese
The Luxpro MP3 player contains 5000 practical sentences
with large LCD display that allows users to repeat sentence
by sentence for effective learning.
(The items may vary depending on different firmware
versions.)

Repeat function helps effective learning
With ESL 5000 language learning function, users can select
different play modes based on their different needs; Luxpro
EZ Listen MP3 player can also memorize where you stop
and resume playing next time to help effective learning.

http://www.luxpro-corp.com/driver/MX-565E_...al_eng_V300.pdf

Looks good to me, infact the english user manual is an astounding 99 pages.  Top quality, and beats the hell out of my 10 page iPod user manual.

You know what they say about assumptions...  So i ask of you RESCIND YOUR EVILNESS!!! LET YOU BE CLENSED OF YOUR ETHNIC STEREOTYPES AND BE REBORN!

[Darren Dirt]

 hey it wasn't an as sumption. He called it (himself) this neologism: an "assertation". So ptth...


PS: the main website had (I think, brain going all mushy) a bit of funny-translation'ed verbiage. But wow, if the manual is coherent, that's A Good Thing (though contrary to stereotypes, which btw I agree typically for electronics there are rearranged sentences components etc. which make the meaning sometimes confusing - like something written by this guy. )

[Shayne]

 I had thought Canadians at the very least had left assumptions at the door seeing as we are a very multi-cultural society.

It's a massive pet peive of mine to judge others because of past experiances.  Granted we all do it, but not giving Bob Smith the uber programmer a chance because he has a pimple on his nose, is really a shame and a negative for the human race.

[Mr. Analog]

 I guess I lose the bet, the manual is choc full of good grammar, huzzah!

I had thought Canadians at the very least had left assumptions at the door seeing as we are a very multi-cultural society.

Quit stereotyping Canadians as accepting of multi-culturalism (when clearly we are not, Quebec seperatist movements, Native reserves, references to foreign power figureheads and / or Judeo-Christian ethics in official Gov't oaths / doctrine, etc. etc. etc.).

As for not hiring Bob for having a pimple on his nose, I agree. But if Bob is a crap coder even though he holds a degree in another country or if he can't communicate effectively he can work somewhere else thanks.

[Shayne]

 Dont you guys outsource?

[Mr. Analog]

Dont you guys outsource?

Not anymore, the code we got back was garbage from both India and Russia, then again we went with the cheapest possible people and gave them crappy documentation, so yeah if you get someone to do a cheap ass job it's gonna suck no matter what country it comes from.

[Shayne]

 Oh  Well then...i guess....err.... *runs from thread*

[Thorin]

Not anymore, the code we got back was garbage from both India and Russia

India I knew about.  We outsourced to Russia?

Amazing what you find out on the forums

[Mr. Analog]

Not anymore, the code we got back was garbage from both India and Russia

India I knew about.  We outsourced to Russia?

Amazing what you find out on the forums

Yeah, before you started I think...

[Darren Dirt]

 *stands guard at gateway of thread to prevent reentrance of citizens of Politicallycorrectia*

Seriously, episode #2 of "The Office" covered the issue of "diversity" (in the workplace, the capital city of "The Republic of Litigation") and the diversity coach guy actually pointed out that it is not helpful for people to pretend there aren't differences. There are. It's fair to say that when a product is made overseas, and translated into English, it may have some grammatical problems, if not outright incoherent and painful to interpret (English-->English, who knew?)

But presuming a person's facial blemish is due to some racial makeup (or presuming a race from a person's outward appearance) is neither Canadian, and not "un-Canadian". It's just stupid. Most of us are mature enough to not do that.

Or at least, to be smart enough to preface it with "Apparently, some people believe that..."

[Ustauk]

 K, here's my two cents.  I don't think Mr. Analog was being stereotypical of people so much as he was making assumptions about businesses in East Asia.  He has experience with badly worded manuals of various products he purchased that were made in East Asia, primarily electronics from the sound of it, and projected that onto the products manual.  In this case, it was an invalid assumption, but one he made based on past data.  

We forget sometimes how diverse a country we are.  If you need a translation of something, odds are we'll be able to find someone to do it.  In a place like, say, Taiwan, the population is much less diverse.  Therefore people with language training are more valuable, and more likely to be snapped up by well to do companies.  The smaller outfits, who are generally competing on smaller margins, may try and cut some corners by using a translation program, or one of their staff members who has a limited knowledge of English, to translate their manuals.  I imagine this might occur the other way too.   Someone might be reading the Chinese translation of a Canadian snowmobile's manual someplace in Northern China, and scratching his head wondering what the hell its trying to say.

As to quality of the outsourced code that Mr. Analog referred too, given how stingy his boss is I'd expect he got what he paid for  

I respect Mr. Analog's opinion about multiculturalism, but I disagree with it.  I think people should be able to celebrate their cultural heritage as they see fit, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.  I think we're stronger as a nation for having such a diverse cultural and genetic pool to work with.  I'd rather be a mongrel dog then a rottweiler with hip displacia or heart problems from being purbred  I admit that most of the power brokers still come from the same ethnic background, but that well change with time as the next generations come on through.

[Darren Dirt]

 Yeah, we're all different, and unlike certain countries we shouldn't be in a "melting pot" concept, where you are afraid to express yourself culturally, individually, creatively.

I'm gonna go dance out by the mountains now...