Two Words: Dungeons & Dragons
Do you know what two words you will never hear with those two words?
Oscar & Academy. :D
Quote from: Bixby on January 25, 2008, 06:53:02 AM
Two Words: Dungeons & Dragons
Do you know what two words you will never hear with those two words?
Oscar & Academy. :D
Oh heavens, what will
the Academy think of my B movie collection?
I would watch "Day the Earth Stood Still" and "Jason and the Argonauts" over "Dances With Wolves" and "Brokeback Mountain"...
Hehe I'm right there with you Mr. A. I have some of my own "B" movies I wouldn't trade for any huge blockbuster.
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 08:59:17 AM
Hehe I'm right there with you Mr. A. I have some of my own "B" movies I wouldn't trade for any huge blockbuster.
Or something artistic but void of storytelling...
I mean, it's not like I don't enjoy a lot of quality films, sometimes though it's good to sit down and watch something like
Ice Pirates.
Don't get me wrong, I like good ol' fromage movies myself. I have never seen "On Golden Pond" and do not intend to.
I do, kind of, like to, sort of watch movies that have a decent plot, a reasonable adherence to physics, and a modicum of acting talent though. ;D
Well I think you are lost on any fantasy movie providing adherence to physics, :D, but I get where you are coming from. Then again some movies just have that appeal for fans, cult classics or just a movie that fills the time well "once".
Army of Darkness is a prime example, and I am so happy that someone introduced me to the movie way, way, way back!
Quote from: Bixby on January 25, 2008, 09:08:23 AM
I do, kind of, like to, sort of watch movies that have a decent plot, a reasonable adherence to physics, and a modicum of acting talent though. ;D
Believe it or not, "Cloverfield" fits the bill. AMAZING movie, lives up to the teaser-hype; if you are in the right mood you quickly get immersed in the situation and feel like you're along for the ride...
Oh, and by acting talent, are you implying character development convincingly portrayed? Or just good actors (even in poorly developed roles ;) )
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 09:40:29 AM
Oh, and by acting talent, are you implying character development convincingly portrayed? Or just good actors (even in poorly developed roles ;) )
A bit of both. Some character roles are poorly defined or so stereotypically defined that the best actor/actress in the world could not perform well in the role. Sometimes, there are decent roles that could be better acted and they come across in a very jilted manner. Only thing which would be worse is if they were holding their script sheets on film.
I do not want to come across as a film snob, far from it. I just have become very miserly with my time and want to be entertained and stimulated for the 1.5-2 hours I am giving up when I watch a movie. Otherwise, I would much rather play a game or do something else that is more engaging.
Here is a site that a friend of mine reads. He is always going on about Movie Physics. Some of you may get a kick out of it.
http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/
Cheers,
Matt
Physics in movies is such a difficult topic to broach. On one hand you want to be artistic but for some topics you want to be realistic.
Transporter = exaggerated but entertaining physics
Transporter 2 = WTF, who the hell can watch this without laughing
Quote from: Lazybones on January 25, 2008, 01:30:14 PM
Transporter = exaggerated but entertaining physics
Transporter 2 = WTF, who the hell can watch this without laughing
Great example there.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on January 25, 2008, 01:30:14 PM
Transporter = exaggerated but entertaining physics
Transporter 2 = WTF, who the hell can watch this without laughing
Great example there.
bad physics + absent storyline = bad movie
bad physics + entertaining story/characters = acceptable compromise ;)
LOL I think this is all subjective to the viewer? I absolutely hated Eye Wide Shut, but the guy next to me loved it.
So what I am getting at is some people love the cheeziness, the bad puns, etc of some movies, where they can't stand them in others.
I just don't think there is an "Everyone will love this movie" out there. But I do think the possibility for the "Everyone will not like this movie"... Uwe Boll anyone?
Well, the conversation sparked on the idea that movies of recognized quality are "better" entertainment (I mean, I know it was a joke, but that's what I got out of it).
Heck, I wanna dig out "Seventh Voyage of Sinbad" now!
Hehe, I know, just wanted to see if I could put a kink in the thread, to try and boost some more thought ;)
There was an appropriate quote on /. yesterday:
If you try to accommodate everybody, somebody will be upset.
There is no perfect movie.
Awe, next you'll tell me there isn't a perfect moment either... time to pack it all in now!
Back to the subject at hand, I think the best thing a movie does is brings out an entertaining distraction from life, which may contain some thought prevoking/emotional reaction, or may just be a way to pass time.
A great movie can be just that, a movie that was the right choice for the mood, state of mind, or situtational status of your life.
I only ask these of a movie:
Entertain me and / or make me think
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:01:29 PM
I only ask these of a movie:
Entertain me and / or make me think
and / or present a character that I can "relate" to... even if he/she is uber-evil, at least let the humanity/motivation be clear enough that I'm "there" with them (or with the Good Guys) in some real way.
After all, that's why we pick up a book or install a video game, right?
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
After all, that's why we pick up a book or install a video game, right?
I don't know about you, but I just did it cause of peer pressure. :P
Seriously though, I don't know if I relate so much to every movie I liked or the characters within. Sometimes it just was a worth while watching flick for the sake of watching the flick.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:01:29 PM
I only ask these of a movie:
Entertain me and / or make me think
and / or present a character that I can "relate" to... even if he/she is uber-evil, at least let the humanity/motivation be clear enough that I'm "there" with them (or with the Good Guys) in some real way.
After all, that's why we pick up a book or install a video game, right?
Y'know there are plenty of great movies with characters that I did not relate to at all (
Scarface,
The Deer Hunter, etc).
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 03:12:11 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
After all, that's why we pick up a book or install a video game, right?
I don't know about you, but I just did it cause of peer pressure. :P
It's funny but this is a motivator for a lot of gamers. The benefit though is that often the games and books with a lot of buzz are enjoyable (though sometimes not for reasons you would have tried it without feedback).
I do loathe review sites (movies, books, games, whatever). The only one who can tell me if something is good is me.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:15:26 PM
The only one who can tell me if something is good is me.
Well you and that anonymous guy sitting at the back of the room, shouting opinions and then pointing at the rather large fellow beside him. I hate that guy! LOL :D
But yeah I totally agree with you!
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Well you and that anonymous guy sitting at the back of the room, shouting opinions
Actually if it's a crap film at the dollar theatre it enhances the experience...
Vader: "I can
feel him"
Guy in Back: "Awwwwww sick man!"
Everyone: LOL!
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Well you and that anonymous guy sitting at the back of the room, shouting opinions
Actually if it's a crap film at the dollar theatre it enhances the experience...
Vader: "I can feel him"
Guy in Back: "Awwwwww sick man!"
Everyone: LOL!
Or a girl behind you screaming a shrill movie chick scream, at a scary scene at a horror flick, enhancing the feeling of some great surround sound in a crappy theatre.
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
Well you and that anonymous guy sitting at the back of the room, shouting opinions
Actually if it's a crap film at the dollar theatre it enhances the experience...
Vader: "I can feel him"
Guy in Back: "Awwwwww sick man!"
Everyone: LOL!
Or a girl behind you screaming a shrill movie chick scream, at a scary scene at a horror flick, enhancing the feeling of some great surround sound in a crappy theatre.
Hey! I remember that in Sixth Sense, everyone thought it was part of the soundtrack.
It was a perfect scream!
Quote from: Melbosa on January 25, 2008, 03:25:23 PM
Or a girl behind you screaming a shrill movie chick scream, at a scary scene at a horror flick, enhancing the feeling of some great surround sound in a crappy theatre.
"Don't Open That Doo'! DON'T DO IT, GIRLFRIEND! AAAAHHHH!!!" (that final scene in the last season of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" comes to mind ;) )
PS: Fastest. Growing. RW Thread. EVER.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 03:35:00 PM
PS: Fastest. Growing. RW Thread. EVER.
Sorry buddy, there is another going on at the moment that you can't see, grows faster!
Yeah, this is only on page 2. Nyah!
Quote from: Bixby on January 25, 2008, 10:11:58 AM
Here is a site that a friend of mine reads. He is always going on about Movie Physics. Some of you may get a kick out of it.
http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/
Cheers,
Matt
"Visible Laserbeams" is especially interesting -- and SURPRISING! I never thought about the fact that a laser would not be visible from the "side"... even with "special glasses" +_+
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 03:53:34 PM
"Visible Laserbeams" is especially interesting -- and SURPRISING! I never thought about the fact that a laser would not be visible from the "side"... even with "special glasses" +_+
But... but... what about the sharks? Can you see them from the side?
Sometimes taking the sci-fi to reality can ruin the whole premise. I mean, anyone who has ever said to me, "How can you like transformers, it is so unrealistic", I reply, "Um yeah, duh! You know Robot Races don't exist don't you?"
I also give that "intuitor" website one charred thumb way up (http://intuitor.com/moviephysics/starWarsE3.html) for some of their movie reviews (http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/mpmain.html#reviews)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:12:50 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on January 25, 2008, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 25, 2008, 03:01:29 PM
I only ask these of a movie:
Entertain me and / or make me think
and / or present a character that I can "relate" to... even if he/she is uber-evil, at least let the humanity/motivation be clear enough that I'm "there" with them (or with the Good Guys) in some real way.
After all, that's why we pick up a book or install a video game, right?
Y'know there are plenty of great movies with characters that I did not relate to at all (Scarface, The Deer Hunter, etc).
I finally watched Scarface -- I found it good not great. Lotsa folks compare it favorably to either of the first 2 Godfather movies and I think that's ridic -- INEC. In Scarface it was either badly edited or badly written, either way it doesn't even touch TGF or TGFP2 in the way those films actually depicted the changing character during the rise of a powerful figure, event-by-event.
But on that subject of Scarface -- WOW, real life home of a Mexican drug lord >>> any fictional depiction you could imagine!
http://www.epicdash.com/mexican-drug-lords-home-raided-even-incredible-horrifying-ever-imagined/ (photos)
Comparing Scarface to The Godfather was probably the worst suggestion I've heard (no offense to whoever suggested it), to go into Scarface you need to be in the 80s zone first and be ready for an action movie (but be surprised with how sometimes you can actually SIDE with this obviously crazy person), The Godfather is like ... the exact opposite from that (if you ARE looking for a Godfather-like experience check out Once Upon A Time in America, slow, but worthy)
Either way you can't compare the two movies, IMO Scarface is all about watching somebody chase an impossible dream and burn up while doing it. Fascinating in its brutality and sad in its abrupt ending ("more" will never be enough, kinda like The Wolf of Wall Street)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 09, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
Comparing Scarface to The Godfather was probably the worst suggestion I've heard (no offense to whoever suggested it), to go into Scarface you need to be in the 80s zone first and be ready for an action movie (but be surprised with how sometimes you can actually SIDE with this obviously crazy person), The Godfather is like ... the exact opposite from that (if you ARE looking for a Godfather-like experience check out Once Upon A Time in America, slow, but worthy)
Either way you can't compare the two movies, IMO Scarface is all about watching somebody chase an impossible dream and burn up while doing it. Fascinating in its brutality and sad in its abrupt ending ("more" will never be enough, kinda like The Wolf of Wall Street)
I despised Mr. Montana and Mr. Belfort, yet I really enjoyed the ride in Wolfie. And not just because it was more modern in its production value and pacing etc. but because it told a story in a way that was... idk... better. Scarface was like a handful of freeze-frame moments in some guy's rise to ultimate power then he does himself in just before being actually killed by the competition. Wolfie portrayed the development of a character from protege to mentor to full blown degenerate... actually in a way so did The Godfather I guess (although there I felt less disgust at the character until he really went to a cold (and paranoid) extreme and was barely recognizable vs his earlier self.)
idk in Scarface I was just hoping more of a character study with lots of bullets flying. Instead I kept getting introduced to characters like Michelle Pfeiffer or various drug-industry figures, who quickly revealed themselves to be flat and not that important to the overall story. Maybe their involvement was too subtle compared to other films, but so many of them seemed unnecessary, replaceable, not standing out in any real way. I mean, you can "care" about the experience and eventual fate of a character even if you HATE them as a human -- in Scarface I found that pretty much absent I guess.
Nostalgia is a big part of the film I guess
Like people who've never seen Star Wars it's kind of a let down I guess :)
Quote from: Darren Dirt on November 09, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
But on that subject of Scarface -- WOW, real life home of a Mexican drug lord >>> any fictional depiction you could imagine!
http://www.epicdash.com/mexican-drug-lords-home-raided-even-incredible-horrifying-ever-imagined/ (photos)
That stack of money... Wow. That's bigger than my king-size bed. I'd need four to six pick-up trucks to haul that around. $22bill - I hope the Mexican government keeps it and uses it to pay their anti-corruption squads.
Quote from: Thorin on November 09, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on November 09, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
But on that subject of Scarface -- WOW, real life home of a Mexican drug lord >>> any fictional depiction you could imagine!
http://www.epicdash.com/mexican-drug-lords-home-raided-even-incredible-horrifying-ever-imagined/ (photos)
That stack of money... Wow. That's bigger than my king-size bed. I'd need four to six pick-up trucks to haul that around. $22bill - I hope the Mexican government keeps it and uses it to pay their anti-corruption squads.
I gotta do it man!
https://youtu.be/u5BMl5lZeFg
Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 09, 2015, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: Thorin on November 09, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on November 09, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
But on that subject of Scarface -- WOW, real life home of a Mexican drug lord >>> any fictional depiction you could imagine!
http://www.epicdash.com/mexican-drug-lords-home-raided-even-incredible-horrifying-ever-imagined/ (photos)
That stack of money... Wow. That's bigger than my king-size bed. I'd need four to six pick-up trucks to haul that around. $22bill - I hope the Mexican government keeps it and uses it to pay their anti-corruption squads.
I gotta do it man!
https://youtu.be/u5BMl5lZeFg
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Huell and Kuby, what a comedy duo 8) (all's I'm sayin')
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