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Title: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
We are lucky here in Edmonton, it seems our river valley is so deep compared to the surrounding land that flooding is not that much of a concern (although slippage is, as some river-side homeowners discovered around a decade ago).

Yesterday I saw some news stations' video coverage overhead of Canmore, AND of Calgary. YIKES. Felt kinda surreal, seeing that in a major Canadian city, let alone in Alberta. Reminded me of footage from India or Bangladesh or similar.

And then I logged into my GoA PC this morning, saw this actually frightening dialog popup.

Hope any family and friends of yours in southern Alberta are safe, folks.




...seriously surreal...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/06/21/alberta-flooding-calgary-canmore-high-water.html

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/21/officials-warn-worst-is-yet-to-come-as-areas-of-calgary-begin-to-flood/

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/06/21/calgary_flooding_stay_away_from_downtown_police_tell_residents.html


Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 08:45:53 AM
You should see Canmore

https://twitter.com/Goldsack/status/347759014119096320/photo/1
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Melbosa on June 21, 2013, 08:51:10 AM
I have a trip to Fairmont next week Wednesday....
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Bring a canoe!
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Lazybones on June 21, 2013, 09:16:15 AM
Crazy, only heard about this lat yesterday.

I didn't realize how exposed that area was.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 21, 2013, 09:29:57 AM
A friend of mine lives in canmore. In a basement suite... Luckily he hasn't flooded. yet.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 09:42:42 AM
Edmonton has low-lying areas that can flood as well.

Interesting before-and-after pictures: http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/before-after/alberta-floods/.  The third one is typical Albertan.  Actually, so is the second one.

Here's a video of Cougar Creek, you can see the banks crumbling as the video goes on: http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/06/your-photos-of-southern-alberta-floods.html#mid=11686473&offset=18&page=1&s=upload DESC (http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/06/your-photos-of-southern-alberta-floods.html#mid=11686473&offset=18&page=1&s=upload%20DESC)

Where I live, the local river almost floods pretty much every year.  The bicycle paths along the river disappear and some houses along the riverbank get water about three feet from their basement doors for about one to three weeks.  And yet, people keep building by rivers.  Cougar Creek's kind of unusual, though, that streambed looked like it could handle even a large flood, but this is obviously one of those once-every-hundred-years floods.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 09:42:42 AM
Here's a video of Cougar Creek, you can see the banks crumbling as the video goes on: http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/06/your-photos-of-southern-alberta-floods.html#mid=11686473&offset=18&page=1&s=upload DESC (http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/06/your-photos-of-southern-alberta-floods.html#mid=11686473&offset=18&page=1&s=upload%20DESC)

On a page above there's a link to a 23-image still frame slideshow, which certainly has some disturbing shots. But WOW when you see any of the full-motion VIDEO of the rushing brown liquid, it seriously looks identical to some of the footage from the Japan tsunami, rapidly moving water with such destructive power, awesomely terrifying.





Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
And then I logged into my GoA PC this morning, saw this actually frightening dialog popup.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/06/albertans-capture-their-flood-evacuations-with-real-time-photos.html

evac zone:
(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5480%2F9099096842_b2153f4abb_z.jpg)

here's why:
(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdistilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com%2F5e220d1ada6711e29b3722000a1fa50e_7.jpg)

Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 10:23:55 AM
That video shows a guy walking around and on the bridge saying it was "gonna go"

It went:
http://youtu.be/vBt5MISANm4
http://youtu.be/Pu2dTg9pdHg
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 11:18:27 AM
Found this interesting web page: http://www.environment.alberta.ca/forecasting/data/precipmaps/precipmaps.html

Here's a map of the storm event (in PDF format): http://www.environment.alberta.ca/forecasting/data/precipmaps/event.pdf.  Pretty clear where most of the rain happened.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 10:23:55 AM
That video shows a guy walking around and on the bridge saying it was "gonna go"

It went:
http://youtu.be/vBt5MISANm4
http://youtu.be/Pu2dTg9pdHg

those 2 distinct orange + red colored houses seem to be these:
http://goo.gl/maps/U0QBG



@ 11:43am right now there's a live press conference http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1335319 with updates from the CEMA folks. Apparently every single bridge that comes close to the Elbow or Bow = effectively shut down. Including the major artery Deerfoot Trail @ 17 Ave SE (!) I think.  :o

And even MacLeod trail as well (which appears to be the main road from the south that feeds out of/into downtown Calgary :eep:

Dozens of million+ dollar homes in the "Elbow Park" area are in serious danger of being wiped out completely if things keep up. The high price their owners paid for a nice view, ouch...
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
Wow... :o

I hope everyone affected by the flooding is ok
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 21, 2013, 12:08:59 PM
Yeah, no kidding.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Lazybones on June 21, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
I have cousins in Calgary, some interesting photos coming in on the feed that is for sure..

LRT is flooded out.

Zoo is flooded

Stamped grounds flooded

Highway 1 flooded.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on June 21, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
Zoo is flooded

They safely evacuated all the animals. Apparently the recently-added penguin habitat = totally under water.  :o And apparently the Stampede grounds might be so badly affected that this year's gonna be cancelled or at least modified in its scope. When in history have you ever heard of the Calgary Stampede not running?

Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 02:10:32 PM
There's some before-and-after photos esp. of downtown -- https://twitter.com/search?q=%23yycflood&src=hash

and one thing I've learned: it's not just the Stampede grounds, but ... well...

"BREAKING: Water is up to row 10 at Saddledome. Dressing rooms completely submerged. Jumbotron rm & all equipment destroyed."
- https://twitter.com/EricFrancis/status/348110337024860160 (Calgary Sun columnist -- 4 hours ago)
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 02:13:11 PM
Okay, this pic is funny:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTuwaJCAAEv-g0.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/markusoff/status/348165586628509697/photo/1

Yup, caught a fish with her bare hands out on the street in front of her house.  Didn't even put down her coffee.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 02:18:59 PM


Quote from: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 02:13:11 PM
Okay, this pic is funny:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTuwaJCAAEv-g0.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/markusoff/status/348165586628509697/photo/1

Yup, caught a fish with her bare hands out on the street in front of her house.  Didn't even put down her coffee.

another funny-but-scary: watch this huge tree take a dirt nap thanks to the power of H2O:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151564816986026&set=vb.176351929083336&type=2&theater



but back to yikes seriousness...


more before-vs-after
http://globalnews.ca/news/661667/photo-gallery-calgary-floods-before-and-after/


https://twitter.com/CalgaryPolice/status/348137809883828225/photo/1
I guess it's more than just a couple of inches in downtown.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/pictures-and-videos-of-flooding-in-canmore-and-calgary-alberta-1.1334613
Victoria Park in Calgary:
(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBNSycj_CEAE4kBm.jpg)

"Stampede Grounds are under water and water is entering the Saddledome." (5 hours ago)
(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBNS1MkVCYAA-0LT.jpg)
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 02:24:44 PM
And this one really shows what's happening in Canmore:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNQHjnPCAAMGarY.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/Amazing_Capture/status/347911379614826496/photo/1
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
It's kinda hard to see, but the sprinklers are on at this church:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNRDnPiCcAEbcrT.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/dansgoodside/status/347977412669239296/photo/1
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 02:24:44 PM
And this one really shows what's happening in Canmore:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNQHjnPCAAMGarY.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/Amazing_Capture/status/347911379614826496/photo/1

That photo is the highway washout at the intersection of Highway 1 (aka Trans-Canada!) and the Creek; major obviously but from what I've seen Canmore is pretty okay except between that and the upper part of the Creek where there's a ton of houses really close to its banks (i.e. the orange and red ones above).


But Calgary, on the other hand...  :o




those Elbow Park super-expensive homes I mentioned above are in really bad shape...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTfIXXCMAEFczd.jpg) (https://twitter.com/RyanMMM/status/348148406012751873/photo/1)



And the "Centre Street Bridge" normally has a LOWER deck too:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNRAYOGCEAAr0Y7.jpg) (https://twitter.com/aldjohnmar/status/347973856050417665/photo/1)



Downtown 9th Ave SE and "MacLeod Trail" which is a pretty major artery...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSh8X8CQAAOclV.jpg) (https://twitter.com/PaulaTrotter/status/348081129796026368/photo/1)



also downtown -- 9th Ave SE @ 4th Street... unbelievable

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSyu-qCMAE2ofP.jpg) (https://twitter.com/IrishEagle/status/348099591373205505/photo/1)





here's some overhead shots of the damage to the Calgary Zoo...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNS4kvGCYAEdm3r.jpg) (https://twitter.com/weathernetwork/status/348106012466765825/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNS9BzUCcAACadU.jpg) (https://twitter.com/ampcalgary/status/348110909861949441/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNS0p4TCQAEnM5q.jpg) (https://twitter.com/JillMacyshonCTV/status/348101702790037504/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNS4KJfCcAAnleu.jpg) (https://twitter.com/weathernetwork/status/348105555690287104/photo/1)




...and the Stampede grounds...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTpmykCYAAy_0F.jpg) (https://twitter.com/EllingsonEJ/status/348159923827400704/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSdmKmCQAE8R9q.jpg) (https://twitter.com/Billyd71/status/348076350214651904/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTbF8ICEAAICkh.jpg) (https://twitter.com/PrudenceNanou/status/348143966295822336/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTgJLGCMAA2Dfl.png) (https://twitter.com/NabeelKhanYYC/status/348149519407525888/photo/1)




...which is right next to the Saddledome:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSeHRkCIAAkpJm.jpg) (https://twitter.com/GlennStreet/status/348076919016792065/photo/1)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNTYr10CIAEF-4-.jpg) (https://twitter.com/KaitJ/status/348141318901473281/photo/1)





And from the Calgary Transit website (http://www.calgarytransit.com/):
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNT1KNNCUAANOhU.jpg) (https://twitter.com/markusoff/status/348172626902011904/photo/1/large)

Yikes. Even in the worst blizzard I don't think I've ever seen that scary of a warning message on the ETS website.

I would hate to be the planners and managers @ CT that have to figure all of this out...
http://www.calgarytransit.com/html/rainfall_detours.html
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 03:00:59 PM
...good god
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 03:22:43 PM
The weird thing is that two days from now the water'll probably all be gone again.  There's gonna be a ton of insurance claims, though.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
Might be a bit more than 2 days -- there's plenty of buildings that might not leak away the water very easily on their own, will need pumping etc. And because of the wide scale of impact, there's certainly gonna be a shortage of technology to get that water out in a decent length of time.


_______
on a less disaster-focused note, I discovered something in Google Maps today.

I searched just for this...
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Calgary%20elbow%20park
...and noticed Google put a dotted boundary around the region I named!

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=edmonton%20balwin
same thing. If you zoom in and out everywhere else, no dotted boundary -- but to help in your search by name of region or neighborhood I guess that feature shows up. Cool.

even works for towns/cities -- and notice when you zoom out it fills it in with a reddish pink color, to make it easy to find that area again.
https://maps.google.ca/?q=red%20deer%20ab

and even countries! http://maps.google.com/?q=america



update: LOL, well now I feel out of touch with the times: "On May 18, 2007 Google added neighborhood search capabilities" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Maps#2007)
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
Might be a bit more than 2 days -- there's plenty of buildings that might not leak away the water very easily on their own, will need pumping etc. And because of the wide scale of impact, there's certainly gonna be a shortage of technology to get that water out in a decent length of time.

The Saddledome is now @ 14 rows of submerging; seems like it's at least partly built below surface level -- some are saying some PRIVATE BOX seats are under water now.

https://twitter.com/buzrbe/status/348135678992855040



Just found a Google map that seems to have collected hundreds of photos with their location. http://goo.gl/maps/q6KmN

This photo montage says it all... wow.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNS3eGxCEAAAJCp.jpg) (https://twitter.com/Mookalicious/status/348104799050403840)

via the "Top photos" @ http://twitter.com/search?q=%23ABflood&src=hash


But that's it for me; fun day trying to juggle actual work alongside the emotional reality inherent in this devestating display of mother nature's power... my wife's siblings and mother currently live in Calgary but luckily not close to the waterways. Gonna head home soon and bear-hug my family as I got a strong dose of gratitude, appreciation, reminder today of what's really precious to me.

Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
Well yeah, I meant the flood waters on the streets. The Saddledome's main arena floor is indeed built below grade, same as Recall Place and probably every other major arena in North America. Not having to build the walls quite as high saves hundreds of millions in construction costs.

There'll be lots of underground parades that'll take a while to empty, too. I'm expecting the engineers who originally designed them to have thought of some way to get water out, though, so there may already be pumps or at least easy hookups for pumps.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 05:13:47 PM
Well son of a b...  I just went to register my new truck and the registry office says they can't do any registry services due to the flooding in Calgary.

I guess Alberta Registries didn't bother making a backup data room after their fire in their Calgary data center. Would've been nice if they'd set up a redundant data center somewhere else, like here in Edmonton.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Lazybones on June 21, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 21, 2013, 05:13:47 PM
Well son of a b...  I just went to register my new truck and the registry office says they can't do any registry services due to the flooding in Calgary.

I guess Alberta Registries didn't bother making a backup data room after their fire in their Calgary data center. Would've been nice if they'd set up a redundant data center somewhere else, like here in Edmonton.

Or you know building your data center up a hill and planning floor floods and power issues... I know at least one major data center in Calgary that is not having any issues and it is located fairly close to the river but intentionally WAY up a hill.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 21, 2013, 11:54:48 PM
Spoiler
[suspicious]registries is built on a single point of failure and its data centre has been the root cause of several province wide outages in the past, there is a single backup facility however data is constructed in such a way that disaster recovery would be a significant challenge should a major loss of data occur[/suspicious]
[close]
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 22, 2013, 12:48:24 AM
It could be that they're on the part of the electrical grid that was shut off.  The power company doesn't have their grid set up nicely per block or per neighbourhood in Calgary, it's sorta haphazard and so to turn off the electricity in a flooded area might mean turning off the electricity in a non-flooded area that's on the same part of the grid.

But yeah, Alberta Registries' data center setup leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 22, 2013, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Thorin on June 22, 2013, 12:48:24 AM
It could be that they're on the part of the electrical grid that was shut off.  The power company doesn't have their grid set up nicely per block or per neighbourhood in Calgary, it's sorta haphazard and so to turn off the electricity in a flooded area might mean turning off the electricity in a non-flooded area that's on the same part of the grid.

But yeah, Alberta Registries' data center setup leaves a lot to be desired.
If that's the case, then my house keeping leaves a little to be desired.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Lazybones on June 22, 2013, 02:29:05 PM
As opposed to the Photo map, there is now an official Crisis map.

Google has generated a detailed Alberta Crisis map for evacuation zones, bridge and road closures etc.

http://google.org/crisismap/2013-alberta-floods
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 24, 2013, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: Lazybones on June 22, 2013, 02:29:05 PM
As opposed to the Photo map, there is now an official Crisis map.

Google has generated a detailed Alberta Crisis map for evacuation zones, bridge and road closures etc.

http://google.org/crisismap/2013-alberta-floods

Very useful esp. the next week or so if you're trying to get around your drenched city, for sure. Seems to only include Calgary, and Medicine Hat -- btw WOW MH is showing almost entirely as an evac-zone.


I still find the photos to be more ... personal, somehow. Instead of just degree-of-impact, you see visually the businesses or cars or roads (and especially tunnels/bridges) and how badly they were impacted (can be easily compared to Street View).
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 21, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Just found a Google map that seems to have collected hundreds of photos with their location. http://goo.gl/maps/q6KmN
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 10:52:09 AM
The City of Calgary is asking for volunteers now

Also, on the home front here in Edmonton, a lot of locations/trails along the river valley are underwater due to the river swelling up. So if you planned on going biking in the river valley you may want to think twice first as a lot of the bike trails are shut down.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 24, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
What surprised me is that in many parts of Calgary the water has receded and they've already got dumpsters out on the streets and people are tearing out their soggy drywall and carpeting from their basements.  That's a damn fast response!  Of course other parts, like the Saddledome, still have water in them.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
I feel like they are doing the right thing but it's going to take a long time to clean things up.

I wonder if they are going to cancel the Stampede this year (or maybe move it)?
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 24, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
I feel like they are doing the right thing but it's going to take a long time to clean things up.

I wonder if they are going to cancel the Stampede this year (or maybe move it)?



I'd be more worried about how long the C-Train lrt is gonna be out of service:
(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBNiJ64PCIAEjAp8.jpg)




tbh re. the Stampede, I've seen this passed around the internet a ton this weekend:

(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdistilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fa47d30a2dc0e11e2aa4422000ae90e71_7.jpg)

Strong Alberta spirit, and all that, I guess. (UPDATE: this Calgary radio station (http://www.lite959.com/files/thanks-spotlight.jpg) is apparently the source, at least for it going viral so quickly)

even talked about in NEVADA!
http://guardianlv.com/2013/06/calgary-stampede-2013-come-hell-or-high-water-photos-and-videos/




http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/calgary-stampede-will-go-ahead-come-hell-or-high-water-president-1.1339295

http://storify.com/BizBOXTV/calgary-flooding-2013-flood
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 11:35:15 AM
Realistically they have TWO WEEKS to clean up the grounds and deal with people displaced by the flooding to free up accommodations for tourists.

I know the Stampede is a HUGE tourist draw for Calgary but if they run it it's either going to be on a limited scale or not at all.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 24, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
Photo taken on Saturday:

(http://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1337391!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg)
(http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/calgary-1.jpg)

via http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/23/calgary-set-to-become-case-study-for-experts-as-floods-force-officials-to-miss-disaster-preparedness-conference/




and inside the Saddledome -- #muddymess indeed!
(http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Saddledome.jpg)


The Saddledome outside -- as recently as Sunday still a wet mess (as is most of the "Elbow Park" area just south of the Stampede grounds all the way to the Bow)
(http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/saddledome1.jpg)


"An estimated 1 million people attend the Calgary Stampede every year, with 30-40% of those attendees coming from outside the city, and including foreign tourists from the U.S, the U.K, Australia and parts of Asia. In 2009, it was estimated that revenue from the event was over $172 million dollars, and for a city of 1 million people, that's a lot of business. The difficulty of hosting the event, with a crippled downtown core will mean hotels and executive suites reservations may not be able to accommodate the tourists, and the C-Train which is the preferred method of travel for many is still not operational. ...The other important highlight of this years event, is a partnership between Disney Studios Canada and the Calgary Stampede. A cross promotional partnership between Disney Studios Canada and The Calgary Stampede was intended to launch with the premiere of the movie, The Lone Ranger. The movie is scheduled to open July 3, 2013, and is directed by Gore Verbinski and stars Johnny Depp and Armie Hammer. Disney Studios Canada is promoting the Calgary Stampede through marketing materials and messages to audience viewers to "Kick Off Their Stampede" by viewing the Lone Ranger. In return, Calgary had promised grand prize trip for two, with accommodations and exclusive "White Hat" treatment to venue events." (source (http://guardianlv.com/2013/06/calgary-stampede-2013-come-hell-or-high-water-photos-and-videos/))


GL, Calgarians! The blow to the local economic if the show doesn't go on = hard to imagine.


And especially good luck Medicine Hat -- since you are the combining of so many waterways, it's not gonna be pretty...

(http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/alberta-flooding2.jpg)
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/23/as-calgary-begins-massive-clean-up-medicine-hat-braces-for-its-own-flood-crisis/
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Lazybones on June 24, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 24, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
What surprised me is that in many parts of Calgary the water has receded and they've already got dumpsters out on the streets and people are tearing out their soggy drywall and carpeting from their basements.  That's a damn fast response!  Of course other parts, like the Saddledome, still have water in them.

That is a smart move... It should significantly reduce the number of buildings that get written off if they can remove the wet stuff ASAP. Once the mold starts it can cause the whole building to be come unsafe and a write off.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Lazybones on June 25, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation/Roads/Pages/Traffic/Advisories-closures-and-detours/Calgary-Traffic-Cameras.aspx

The Google map indicates that the traffic camera's are coming back online with the power, so it is now possible to see part of Calgary live.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
I'm glad they are getting power back so soon.

Hopefully Medicine Hat does as well
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on June 24, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 24, 2013, 11:06:45 AM
What surprised me is that in many parts of Calgary the water has receded and they've already got dumpsters out on the streets and people are tearing out their soggy drywall and carpeting from their basements.  That's a damn fast response!  Of course other parts, like the Saddledome, still have water in them.

That is a smart move... It should significantly reduce the number of buildings that get written off if they can remove the wet stuff ASAP. Once the mold starts it can cause the whole building to be come unsafe and a write off.

I would've expected it to take a little longer than the day after flooding subsided for them to get garbage containers out on the streets.  To me, that's superior planning and organizing.  You're right that it's a smart move.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 12:12:54 PM
Been raining all morning :(
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 12:12:54 PM
Been raining all morning :(

Yep, it's been very wet... at least we had a few hours of sun on the weekend.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
The weather sucks today, and it's bringin' me down.  I really don't feel like doing @%&#-@%&#-all.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 01:52:57 PM
Traffic Advisory | EPS West | Yellowhead Trail & 170 Street | 1 lane shut down EB/WB due to heavy flooding. Expect major delays
Edmonton | Special | W3 | 9219 98 Avenue | FD evacuating residents in area due to flooding. Power & gas services shut off.
Traffic Advisory | EPS Southeast | Connors Road & 98 Avenue | 98 Avenue closed due to flooding on roadway. WB/EB blocked. EPS o/s
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
I had to put on some happy smiley music today to get motivated this afternoon.

A lot of challenging work to do today, need all the cylinders firing.

Music totally changes my mood some days
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 02:00:31 PM
I'd be making some decent progress today if the app I'm working on was actually set up properly... But the lead is working on setting it up at the same time I'm working on some sections of it.. and It doesn't run because it isn't setup properly \o/ so I can't test a damn thing.

I can't work very well like that. I test every other change. blargleflargle.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:03:51 PM
We're trying to collaborate on a change, which is good, my part is relatively easy but it's not exactly what I had planned to do this afternoon. At the end of the sprint some other task will fall off the end.

Also I love Powershell scripts...
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 02:08:13 PM
Traffic Advisory | Whitemud underpass at 170St | Flooding DATS stuck in flooded underpass EPS ENR
Traffic Advisory | 142St S between 118 & 124 Ave | vehicle swamped F driver stuck in car EFR ENR |


\o/
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:09:14 PM
Yikes, I didn't realize it was that crazy, mind you I've had my back to the outdoors all day lol

I'm kind of glad now I had an early meeting today and decided to stay home.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:14:45 PM
Stop, collaborate, and listen,
This is a change we're all, like, missin',
We're writin' the Powershell script so well,
They're gonna drag us straight through hell.

Hell, hell, DLL hell,
The place that we all know so well,
Dev screams in pain from state to state,
Province to province till you can't escape.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:14:45 PM
Stop, collaborate, and listen,
This is a change we're all, like, missin',
We're writin' the Powershell script so well,
They're gonna drag us straight through hell.

Hell, hell, DLL hell,
The place that we all know so well,
Dev screams in pain from state to state,
Province to province till you can't escape.

lol
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
WB yellowhead at St. Albert trail closed due to flooding now

:o
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:34:03 PM
Jebus, just what we need.  I wonder if the stuff around 98 Ave is the river escaping its banks or just from a large amount of rain.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:38:32 PM
Good grief... that's nuts.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:39:03 PM
Went to look up 98 Ave and 92 Street on Google Maps, panned over and saw this: http://goo.gl/maps/rq2Sw.  I thought there was only one River Queen?  That's some wacky aerial photography!
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
Yellowhead Trail going under St Albert Trail in Edmonton:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNoaEwvCIAAUSQI.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/worbsy/status/349620590170218499/photo/1

Looks like the storm drains aren't draining fast enough.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:39:03 PM
Went to look up 98 Ave and 92 Street on Google Maps, panned over and saw this: http://goo.gl/maps/rq2Sw.  I thought there was only one River Queen?  That's some wacky aerial photography!

Our secret river fleet! Discovered!

Quote from: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
Yellowhead Trail going under St Albert Trail in Edmonton:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNoaEwvCIAAUSQI.jpg:large)

source: https://twitter.com/worbsy/status/349620590170218499/photo/1

Looks like the storm drains aren't draining fast enough.

Dang!!
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
Best tweet today: "The best thing about pouring rain?  If you go fast enough you just hydroplane over the pot holes!"

There's a few other pictures of underpasses flooding.  The problem is that the storm drains and storm sewer system aren't built to handle giant downpours because they're very, very infrequent and it costs a lot more to make them handle the bigger downpours.  But that means every ten to twenty years we'll have underpasses that are impassable for a day.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:52:13 PM
Remember the old 109th street tunnel?

I remember buses used to get stuck in there when it started flooding hah
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 02:59:30 PM
Except 109th would flood every other month.
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 03:00:52 PM
Pretty much

Crazy to think there was a whole switchyard there not too long ago...
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
Whitemud at 178th.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNoRxKSCIAAFil_.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/BrianSutherby/status/349611457341693955/photo/1
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
And people wonder why I bought a pickup instead of a smaller car.  All the flooded Edmonton road pictures I've seen so far, the pickups are making it through.  Maybe if Edmonton had installed better storm sewers when they were still building up the city...
Title: Re: Wet enough for ya?
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2013, 03:13:51 PM
https://twitter.com/ZiyahKarmali/status/348882558278332416/photo/1