So is it still a given that the gang is going? Registration opens Wednesday need to know if I need to get in the top 200 draw.
I'd like to go again. Especially now that its going to be held in Hall E (one of the big ones) of the Agricom!
I'm in.
But I'm staff :P
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 08:14:21 AM
I'm in.
But I'm staff :P
YAY! We all missed you last year.
I think I should be able to make it. That unofficial Rock Band tournament looks like it'll be a ton of fun and I've got my fingers crossed that the Agricom can successfully support the taxing requirements of the event.
Quote from: Tonnica on April 21, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
I think I should be able to make it. That unofficial Rock Band tournament looks like it'll be a ton of fun and I've got my fingers crossed that the Agricom can successfully support the taxing requirements of the event.
I think if the Sportex could, the Agricom can :)
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
HEEEEEEEEEELL YEAAAAAAAAAAH!
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
HUZZAH and it's on the LRT line too :)
The only trouble I forsee are vagrants wandering in... it's a high traffic zone.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 21, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
HUZZAH and it's on the LRT line too :)
The only trouble I forsee are vagrants wandering in... it's a high traffic zone.
Really? Its in the same parking lot as the Sportex (was). It won't be any worse than the Sportex.
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 21, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
HUZZAH and it's on the LRT line too :)
The only trouble I forsee are vagrants wandering in... it's a high traffic zone.
Really? Its in the same parking lot as the Sportex (was). It won't be any worse than the Sportex.
No man, it's like right next to the LRT station and the bus turnaround and is a direct thoroughfare for the less "vehicle-owning" people to go bet on the horsies...
But whatever, security's not my problem :D
PLAYIN' KICKASS GAMES IS MY PROBLEM!
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 21, 2009, 11:08:35 PM
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 21, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
HUZZAH and it's on the LRT line too :)
The only trouble I forsee are vagrants wandering in... it's a high traffic zone.
Really? Its in the same parking lot as the Sportex (was). It won't be any worse than the Sportex.
No man, it's like right next to the LRT station and the bus turnaround and is a direct thoroughfare for the less "vehicle-owning" people to go bet on the horsies...
Again, they are in the same parking lot :P The entrances really aren't that far away. (it just seems like they are during K-Days, and a bunch of people and CRAP is in the way).
I doubt there'll be any problems.
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But whatever, security's not my problem :D
PLAYIN' KICKASS GAMES IS MY PROBLEM!
Haha. Indeed.
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
That is what I was told. Hall E is supposed to be a 50K+ space, but is only listed as 53K on the website.
Quote from: Melbosa on April 22, 2009, 08:27:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
That is what I was told. Hall E is supposed to be a 50K+ space, but is only listed as 53K on the website.
You edited that... It used to say "##K+ space", you edited it down to "50K+ space". Now the sentence is nonsensical, as 53K
is50K+.
I'm registered man! Number 10 and 11
Quote from: Thorin on April 22, 2009, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 22, 2009, 08:27:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on April 21, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 21, 2009, 02:41:37 PM
Oh yeah, the new Hall E will have no problem what-so-ever handling the power requirements. And the power drops are already in the floors, and no pillars!
New? They remodeled the old halls too?
That is what I was told. Hall E is supposed to be a 50K+ space, but is only listed as 53K on the website.
You edited that... It used to say "##K+ space", you edited it down to "50K+ space". Now the sentence is nonsensical, as 53K is50K+.
I know... was asked to keep it 50K+ for now, until Hall E is finished. So I edited your post as well. Just encase. Keep it to yourselves for now as that number is unconfirmed.
Your too good, you caught me :P
Sorry man, that sounds like bool sheet to me...
Huh?
So I've registered, but paypal decided to have a hissyfit, so I'll have to try paying them tomorrow or something (make sure I don't get charged twice...).
Haha, all fixed. I'm now fully registered :D
Quote from: Tom on April 23, 2009, 10:03:45 PM
So I've registered, but paypal decided to have a hissyfit, so I'll have to try paying them tomorrow or something (make sure I don't get charged twice...).
Haha, all fixed. I'm now fully registered :D
JAWSOME
So... what's seating like?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 24, 2009, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tom on April 23, 2009, 10:03:45 PM
So I've registered, but paypal decided to have a hissyfit, so I'll have to try paying them tomorrow or something (make sure I don't get charged twice...).
Haha, all fixed. I'm now fully registered :D
JAWSOME
So... what's seating like?
The map looks great, but it didn't seem like seating is open yet
Quote from: Tom on April 24, 2009, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 24, 2009, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tom on April 23, 2009, 10:03:45 PM
So I've registered, but paypal decided to have a hissyfit, so I'll have to try paying them tomorrow or something (make sure I don't get charged twice...).
Haha, all fixed. I'm now fully registered :D
JAWSOME
So... what's seating like?
The map looks great, but it didn't seem like seating is available yet
B'OH!
Map is last years. We have yet to bring up this years layout.
We need our own big screen and couch this year. You can hook us up right Mel. ;)
Quote from: Lazybones on April 25, 2009, 01:37:14 AM
We need our own big screen and couch this year. You can hook us up right Mel. ;)
Now that is something I agree with! :D
Ummmm ... Well I can get a projector from work maybe. But as for the couch....
Quote from: Melbosa on April 26, 2009, 11:56:56 AM
Ummmm ... Well I can get a projector from work maybe. But as for the couch....
LOL does COSTCO sell couches?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 09, 2009, 11:53:32 AMLOL does COSTCO sell couches?
Yeah they sell couches but they all come in packs of 6 or 8. (lol)
So where is every one sitting? Seems seating has been open for a bit now. The good places are all filling up :o
Head table here :(
@%&# I gotta pick my seats too!
I need to pick a seat and the family is coming up with me so I am looking for some cheap accomodations.
Soo, I ask again, where is everyone sitting? ;)
FYI: http://www.fragapalooza.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3165&p=36635 (http://www.fragapalooza.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3165&p=36635)
Big Announcement!
I'm conflicted. But I suppose its better than cancelling. And showers FTW.
Hmm that might work out oddly well with my newly confirmed accommodations.
With all the extras this venue gave us, and with the amount of time it took to find a venue worth discussing with, we hope we made a good choice.
Not that we had much of a choice... basically we were having troubles find a venue at all we could afford. Let alone one with so many options for us.
Yeah, it sounds like a good compromise. I don't really have a problem with where it is. It might even be easier for me to get to ;D
GODAMMIT :(
Lazy, when you get in town we may have to talk.
There's no way in hell I'm staying at a goddamn hotel.
@%&# this really pisses me off.
The Fraga forums are down... I have to really reconsider this now.
I was looking forward to this all goddamn year :'(
I take it staying in Tent City is out of the question as well?
Quote from: Tom on July 25, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
I take it staying in Tent City is out of the question as well?
Yes, I like my back the way it is thank you...
I had really hoped this would be one Fraga that would be an easy goddamn commute.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 25, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
Quote from: Tom on July 25, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
I take it staying in Tent City is out of the question as well?
Yes, I like my back the way it is thank you...
I had really hoped this would be one Fraga that would be an easy goddamn commute.
It would have been about the same as last year. The two buildings were in the same parking lot after all. (of course now the Sport Ex is gone...)
Quote from: Tom on July 25, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 25, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
Quote from: Tom on July 25, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
I take it staying in Tent City is out of the question as well?
Yes, I like my back the way it is thank you...
I had really hoped this would be one Fraga that would be an easy goddamn commute.
It would have been about the same as last year. The two buildings were in the same parking lot after all. (of course now the Sport Ex is gone...)
Last year was a lot easier:
-My parents were in town
-Cab fare was $15 max
-LRT/bus takes about 20 min from my house
I'm seriously thinking of getting a room at the hotel for convenience, anyone else in on that action?
I hope that everyone who wants to go can still attend and will have a good time. Reading through the "major announcement" thread, I do wonder these things:
1. Does Fragapalooza show it's books to the public? (income, expenses, savings from previous years)
2. Does Fragapalooza give refunds if income was a lot higher than expenses or does it go into a slush fund?
3. Does Fragapalooza give refunds to people who register and then choose not to go and ask for said refunds before the event happens?
4. Does the guy who posted so angrily and then was found out to not even have registered in the "I Might Be Interested" thread really think he'll change anything with such a vitriolic post? (Chicken Chaser, I think it was)
Well, first off most people (especially gamers) can be whiny ass bitches (me too) but you know it'll be a better event without guys like that :-/
As far as I know they are not incorporated, which could make things tricky for them if there ever is a situation with liability.
I might be interested in splitting two days at a hotel (sat,sun), but my budget is razor thin as it is.
Quote from: Lazybones on July 26, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
I might be interested in splitting two days at a hotel (sat,sun), but my budget is razor thin as it is.
With 3 or 4 people I might be interested. I can't afford much.
I know the move is unsettling, and I know it is harder for those without your own transportation. We realize that was going to be a very hard part of this move. But let me tell you this (and please, please, please understand), without this move there was a very real chance that Frag was going to be a no-more this year.
Early Registration numbers are down around 55% from last year, and we could bank 400+ showing up at the door to register and pay. Our sponsorship is also drastically down, most citing the recession as a cause for lack of interest or unwillingness to sponsor. We're told by other LANs that they are experiencing similar problems. We knew this before even opening registrations. That's why we tried different ideas this year - adding cash prizes for tourneys, trying to add a trade show. These were in an effort to keep us at the Northlands, but with their new accommodations, costs went up. With our numbers down, we couldn't even try and stay there (and we did try several negotiations to make it happen).
As I said earlier, we looked at so so so many places to come up with just this one. Myself included, we must have tried over 100+ locations. Power is always an issue, so we even looked at generators and warehouses with portable washrooms (port-a-potties). So when we found the DOW, and it looked like we could make it work, we were so so so relieved! Even knowing the lashback to come, we still found it to be the best choice for the best possible Frag. Not a decision taken lightly, nor one taken without knowing the risks and consequences as best we could see.
Quote from: Thorin on July 26, 2009, 02:27:14 PM
I hope that everyone who wants to go can still attend and will have a good time. Reading through the "major announcement" thread, I do wonder these things:
1. Does Fragapalooza show it's books to the public? (income, expenses, savings from previous years)
2. Does Fragapalooza give refunds if income was a lot higher than expenses or does it go into a slush fund?
3. Does Fragapalooza give refunds to people who register and then choose not to go and ask for said refunds before the event happens?
4. Does the guy who posted so angrily and then was found out to not even have registered in the "I Might Be Interested" thread really think he'll change anything with such a vitriolic post? (Chicken Chaser, I think it was)
Lets see if I can answer some of these.
1. Fragapalooza, while being a non-profit event, is not a public entity, charity, government body or anything that you normally see related to that question. Even myself, a staff member of 5 years, does not see everything. Our president and vice president are the only ones who know the books.
2. Our registration agreement states no refunds - not that exceptions don't occur. Extra income - in my experience - has been translated into extras for the event, and/or its volunteers. Whether it is the current year, or the next. Again though I'm not privileged to the bottom line.
3. Despite our registration policy of no refunds, I know there have been exceptions in the past, and we try to work with each case individually to a satisfactory outcome. That being said, when your venue is host to 800+ people, it is hard to please everyone and meet every special case. I'm sure there has been times when refunds have been turned down.
I left out #4 as I don't think you need a response to that one.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 26, 2009, 05:52:11 PM
As far as I know they are not incorporated, which could make things tricky for them if there ever is a situation with liability.
Frag is incorporated as I understand it, and we are required to have liability insurance to hold any event. You have to have the venue as an beneficiary of your Liability Insurance before any will let you book.
This, among many other things, I learned this year helping plan the event. Like here is an interesting tid bit. With us running at 350 people, server farm, network equipment, PA system, and projectors, over 4 days we need around 2500-3000 AMPs of 110 power just to run the event. You know what that translates in costs? I had no idea... lets just say the venue rental is a minor cost in the grand total compared to the power rental required. I really had no idea what the costs of Frag is, and must say now that I have a very good idea (after making so many inquiries over the past month).
I really hope all you that come every year can still make it. It will be one of grass-roots I think, back to the old, as we are thinking with the number of people being less, it will be a more tightly run ship, and more personalized for those who attend.
Quote from: Tom on July 26, 2009, 08:51:54 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on July 26, 2009, 06:02:30 PM
I might be interested in splitting two days at a hotel (sat,sun), but my budget is razor thin as it is.
With 3 or 4 people I might be interested. I can't afford much.
And as for the Hotel, I'd be in if we get enough people, but only if we do get enough to make it worth it. $118/night, 3 nights... if not, I can stomach the 30min drive home to sleep. But count me in if you can get it down to a reasonable amount through sharing. I'm good for $50 a night myself I think.
QuoteAnd as for the Hotel, I'd be in if we get enough people, but only if we do get enough to make it worth it. $118/night, 3 nights... if not, I can stomach the 30min drive home to sleep. But count me in if you can get it down to a reasonable amount through sharing. I'm good for $50 a night myself I think.
$50/night is a bit much for me, but if its Mr A. Lazy, You and Myself, thats about $30/night, which I should be able to handle. I guess it depends on how many people we can stuff in a room ;)
I really don't have an issue with the move. Gotta do what ya gotta do. If I were doing it alone, I would only have a shortish cab ride (probably shorter than to Northlands) to the new venue to get my stuff there, and use tent city to sleep. Its even easier if someone is willing to give me a lift, but that would just be a nice bonus.
edit: and if the room doesn't happen, and you don't want to stay in tent city, I have a new double sized air mattress that has anyone's name on it if they want to stay in my living room :D Its not _that_ far from the DOW. (not that I've checked) I have one condition though, bring me with you ;D
I will talk to Tonnica when she gets back about the room, she's only coming for Sat/Sun anyway so it might work out best if we get a room.
Ok, I may book this today anyway for all four days and then if we need to cancel it shouldn't be a problem.
This is very interesting: http://www.fragapalooza.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3174&sid=ef83ec28455f6f88bd76cef53c9229be (http://www.fragapalooza.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3174&sid=ef83ec28455f6f88bd76cef53c9229be).
Seems they will be previewing a documentary about MMO players, and Frag will be a test audience for it.
Quote from: Melbosa on July 27, 2009, 08:16:38 AM
This is very interesting: http://www.fragapalooza.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3174&sid=ef83ec28455f6f88bd76cef53c9229be (http://www.fragapalooza.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3174&sid=ef83ec28455f6f88bd76cef53c9229be).
Seems they will be previewing a documentary about MMO players, and Frag will be a test audience for it.
I think I saw a preview of that on W5 or something. They were doing a story on how Second Life and WOW impact families in real life..
Ok, Tonnica is cool with a room, so I'm going to try to book one tomorrow.
I'll see if I can get a suite or something equally HUEG
Bring earplugs.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 27, 2009, 09:27:58 PM
Ok, Tonnica is cool with a room, so I'm going to try to book one tomorrow.
I'll see if I can get a suite or something equally HUEG
Bring earplugs.
I'm not quite ok with huge ;D Don't let it jack the price up too far.
FYI Seating has been re-opened for reservation. We couldn't transfer the existing stuff over, so you have to repick.
I've reserved my spot up by the stage. The only other spot we could all fit is down by the bottom there. I'm ok with where ever.
U guys might want to all reserve fast. The seats are going like hot cakes!
R9 C12 beside Tom, everyone else better fill in quick
Pick'd baby!
Dunno if I'm bringing another PC or a DROBO
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 30, 2009, 08:47:26 PM
Pick'd baby!
Dunno if I'm bringing another PC or a DROBO
I'll be bringing 4-5TB of disk space. Possibly 8 :o
I'll have it full of anime, and some movies to start with, anything else people want me to load up on? ;D
Quote from: Tom on July 31, 2009, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 30, 2009, 08:47:26 PM
Pick'd baby!
Dunno if I'm bringing another PC or a DROBO
I'll be bringing 4-5TB of disk space. Possibly 8 :o
I'll have it full of anime, and some movies to start with, anything else people want me to load up on? ;D
Sweeeeeeet
I'll be bringing my file server as well. Should be a good supply of PC games for the venue
Quote from: Melbosa on July 31, 2009, 08:29:30 AM
I'll be bringing my file server as well. Should be a good supply of PC games for the venue
Shiggidy shiggidy schwah, well I'm for sure bringing the DROBO.
Talk at cha laterz
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 31, 2009, 01:05:02 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on July 31, 2009, 08:29:30 AM
I'll be bringing my file server as well. Should be a good supply of PC games for the venue
Shiggidy shiggidy schwah, well I'm for sure bringing the DROBO.
Talk at cha laterz
Mr. A, I found Connections3 so I have all three now! :D Other than that I really do have a @%&#e load of anime. I mean srsly. I just hope the stuff I have on DVD is in good condition... I don't really want to have to redownload all that :o
Quote from: Tom on July 31, 2009, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 31, 2009, 01:05:02 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on July 31, 2009, 08:29:30 AM
I'll be bringing my file server as well. Should be a good supply of PC games for the venue
Shiggidy shiggidy schwah, well I'm for sure bringing the DROBO.
Talk at cha laterz
Mr. A, I found Connections3 so I have all three now! :D Other than that I really do have a @%&#e load of anime. I mean srsly. I just hope the stuff I have on DVD is in good condition... I don't really want to have to redownload all that :o
Duuuuuuuuude awesome!
Alright, it all goes down in a few days!
Who's showing up when? I'd like to know if anyone is willing and able to pick me up on Thurs. Need to know if I have to take a cab.
That said, 1.2TB of video (755GB anime) and growing. (got 100 or so more DVDRs to copy over)
Quote from: Tom on August 03, 2009, 08:43:00 AM
That said, 1.2TB of video (755GB anime) and growing. (got 100 or so more DVDRs to copy over)
Excellent, DROBO is hungry!
Okay, I've booked a room with two queen size beds, it's $128 a night (I've got it booked three nights).
Now who wanted to share again?
Oh yeah, Tonnica won't be there the first day/night.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on August 03, 2009, 06:27:40 PM
Okay, I've booked a room with two queen size beds, it's $128 a night (I've got it booked three nights).
Now who wanted to share again?
Oh yeah, Tonnica won't be there the first day/night.
I believe it was, You, Tonnica, Mel, Lazy and Me. I wonder if theres room on the floor for an air mattress ;D Don't want to sleep on the floor if I don't have to.
I can probably do 3 nights was originally interested in just 2
GAH!
Three of my brand new Seagate 1TB drives have bad sectors. Two have 3-4, one has 1532 :o
This is a royal pain in the rear.
Quote from: Tom on August 04, 2009, 02:53:56 AM
GAH!
Three of my brand new Seagate 1TB drives have bad sectors. Two have 3-4, one has 1532 :o
This is a royal pain in the rear.
B'OH! Hope they are under warranty
Ok well, on Thursday night I'll be in there all by myself but Fri/Sat night it could get a bit crowded in there.
The rooms don't look all that big on the website pix, so we may have to get creative...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on August 04, 2009, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: Tom on August 04, 2009, 02:53:56 AM
GAH!
Three of my brand new Seagate 1TB drives have bad sectors. Two have 3-4, one has 1532 :o
This is a royal pain in the rear.
B'OH! Hope they are under warranty
Yup. Bought them a few months ago. They are actually working now though. If I find theres more errors, I'm just going to swap them for the two 2TB disks I have sitting here doing nothing (they are slower than the seagates, and I was hoping to sell them at fraga :o).
Quote from: Mr. Analog on August 04, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
Ok well, on Thursday night I'll be in there all by myself but Fri/Sat night it could get a bit crowded in there.
The rooms don't look all that big on the website pix, so we may have to get creative...
We'll figure something out I'm sure. I may bring my tent along just in case someone just wants to take a nap or something. I have a nice comfortable double-size air matres, and a "4 man" tent. Or if someone doesn't feel like going up to the room.
Frag made the news...
http://www.630ched.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1123650 (http://www.630ched.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1123650)
So everyone have a good time?
I did, but I'm tired as hell!
Yeah, good times.