http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67jM8nO7Ag
HONEYDEWYEAHYEAHYEAH
This one is a bit hard to describe. Imagine yogscast as the masters of the universe.
Quote from: Tom on June 23, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67jM8nO7Ag
HONEYDEWYEAHYEAHYEAH
This one is a bit hard to describe. Imagine yogscast as the masters of the universe.
Thought it was this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGB5zZYH3ac when it started then I realized it was even MORE "special"
Yeah, lots more special :D though it sorta is that. :D
Good. God.
Okay the Yogcast has The Most Conversational Fanboys EVER!
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=D67jM8nO7Ag
All Comments (34,508)
Views: 494,996
UPLOADED YESTERDAY.
Compare that 1:14 "Comment:View ratio" to ... ugh, I apologize for linking to it, but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4
867,699,850 views -- but only 9,299,682 comments (and PLENTY of those comments are from haters (ldo) ) = CVratio of 1:93 ! Beliebers? Nah, more like belamers!
They are really good with keeping up with the fanbase, through twitter and tumblr and of course their own site with forums.
It's surprisingly really when you consider that they are basically the largest YouTube channel/affiliates in the UK.
It helps that they have over 2 million subscribers. and a lot of them are active. Where as that justin beiber thing is just a "topic".
So, it already has over 100,000 FAVOURITES
:wow:
Quote from: Tom on June 24, 2013, 01:30:22 PM
It helps that they have over 2 million subscribers. and a lot of them are active. Where as that justin beiber thing is just a "topic".
That was my point -- normally a "popular video" has a lot of folks essentially lurking, not even taking the time to say that it stinks. But with Yogscast it seems that an uncommonly large percentage of the viewers also see themselves as part of a community of fanboys, and that has turned into a feedback loop of inclusiveness as more folks realize that's part of the reason this producer of vids stands out among the rest.
Most of the Yogscast make it a really big point to listen to their audiences and actually respond, so even if a series isn't getting a lot of views/faves if there are people who are vocal enough in comments or other areas the video maker will listen to it and keep going.
The easiest thing for them to do is just make Minecraft videos (those always rack up the views) but some Yogs (like Sips) make it a point not to make that many Minecraft videos (probably for fear of getting typcast content).
It's actually quite interesting to watch them strike a balance.
I happen to like Sips's other videos. He's one of the few youtuber's I'll watch other games from. that and a couple guys called GenerikB (http://www.youtube.com/user/Generikb) and BdoubleO100 (http://www.youtube.com/user/BdoubleO100).
I watch Sips, Sjin, BlueXephos and Nilesy daily, occasionally I'll tune into Lalna or Yogscast2, others are weekly (like Rythian).
As well I watch GameGrumps and _STAR on a regular basis.
YouTube series have basically replaced a lot of TV time...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
YouTube series have basically replaced a lot of TV time...
YouTube has essentially replaced 99% of my TV time. That's not even an over statement. The only TV I tend to get around to is The Daily Show and Colbert Report.
I have months of cop dramas to catch up on, and I really don't give a hoot anymore. Oh, forgot about Mythbusters, they just came back again, need to watch that too.
Quote from: Tom on June 24, 2013, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
YouTube series have basically replaced a lot of TV time...
YouTube has essentially replaced 99% of my TV time. That's not even an over statement. The only TV I tend to get around to is The Daily Show and Colbert Report.
I have months of cop dramas to catch up on, and I really don't give a hoot anymore. Oh, forgot about Mythbusters, they just came back again, need to watch that too.
That was true for me too, until around November when I got a Roku and Netflix. Then it was virtually 80% Netflix, the remaining 20% evenly distro between on-demand via Telus OptikTV (which I'm about to cancel, after upping our 'net to the Turbo50 wheee) and of course the occasional Youtube clip or streaming site if it ain't on Netflix (like "classic" movies from pre-2000 that I want to watch with my kids, SRSLY netflix Y U NO HAVE SHAWSHANK!?)
I think the distinction is these are original YouTube shows vs television programming distributed over the internet.
I have netflix too, sorta. Haven't actually set it up to work on my media box yet. But youtube works like a treat on my media box \o/
I would not watch near so much of it if I couldn't watch it on my tv. I'll sit here all day working on various things with youtube going in the background. Can't do that with most tv.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
I think the distinction is these are original YouTube shows vs television programming distributed over the internet.
I already watch YouTube shows like http://tabletop.geekandsundry.com/ regularly... Now if the youtube interface wasn't such a mess I might watch even more.
Quote from: Lazybones on June 24, 2013, 03:59:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
I think the distinction is these are original YouTube shows vs television programming distributed over the internet.
I already watch YouTube shows like http://tabletop.geekandsundry.com/ regularly... Now if the youtube interface wasn't such a mess I might watch even more.
I pretty much stick to the left hand nav list (aka: Guide), and 90% of the time only in the "My Subscriptions" option.
Even then channels themselves can be an awful mess.
It's a horrible transition period, that's for sure.
My tablet came with a great interface that makes viewing channels a lot nicer experience (also it can't play ads), so I disabled updates on it and that's mostly what I use.
I do dislike the changes. it made it harder to see what you actually want to see. But I've managed to get back something similar to what I used before the updates.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 24, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
I think the distinction is these are original YouTube shows vs television programming distributed over the internet.
Yeah, actually my Youtube viewing is a mix of things like Daily Show or Colbert or Craig Ferguson, along with "web originals" like the Spill.com movie reviews, or Red Letter Media, or certain video series from Cracked or College Humor. In a way, I've tried to avoid getting "hooked" on new content producers, because of the inherent timesink factor (I watched a handful of the initial episodes of TableTop @ GeekAndSundry and just like 'Tropes I am avoiding any further diving in, for I am unable to attain moderation ;) )
By "hooked" do you mean "find content you enjoy and want to keep watching"
::)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 09:02:32 AM
By "hooked" do you mean "find content you enjoy and want to keep watching"
::)
I don't know what I don't know, and I don't want to know.
So... yes. I waste enough time as it is. Don't need new timesinks. Even high quality, consistently-deliver-the-enjoyment ones.
/OldFartRant
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 25, 2013, 09:14:31 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 09:02:32 AM
By "hooked" do you mean "find content you enjoy and want to keep watching"
::)
I don't know what I don't know, and I don't want to know.
So... yes. I waste enough time as it is. Don't need new timesinks. Even high quality, consistently-deliver-the-enjoyment ones.
/OldFartRant
LOL you're right, you might actually experience a good time by accident
J/K of course, I put pressure on myself about "wasting time", my counsellor reminded me that I'm the one who sets those expectations. I can set aside an hour a day for my own enjoyment, whatever that may be.
It's way too easy to beat yourself up over something you like.
No such thing as wasted time :)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 09:27:53 AM
J/K of course, I put pressure on myself about "wasting time", my counsellor reminded me that I'm the one who sets those expectations. I can set aside an hour a day for my own enjoyment, whatever that may be.
I'd love to get it down to an hour a day ;)
My youtube experience just shifted other stuff off the queue. its not really like I waste /more/ time.
Mr. Analog, sounds like you've set an allotted time limit and are staying within it, and are doing whatever activity you want within that limit. What Darren's probably experiencing is not staying within that allotted time limit and so other important things in his life are getting bumped. I fully understand this dilemma. Thing A is cool, but thing B needs attention to grow into a proper, useful member of society, thus I can't spend all my time doing thing A.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 25, 2013, 09:39:46 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 09:27:53 AM
J/K of course, I put pressure on myself about "wasting time", my counsellor reminded me that I'm the one who sets those expectations. I can set aside an hour a day for my own enjoyment, whatever that may be.
I'd love to get it down to an hour a day ;)
The point is there's no time limit unless you want one, once you decide that you can control it.
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 09:42:23 AM
My youtube experience just shifted other stuff off the queue. its not really like I waste /more/ time.
Totally, that's what I've found, sometimes I'll shift what I'm doing from one thing to another. I could play a couple hours of Minecraft or watch a Spaghetti Western or draw some stuff or listen to music or whatever
I guess what I'm trying to say is you are the master of infinite time, you choose how you spend it and if you want to, change it.
I've had a real problem with this off and on and ultimately it doesn't matter. One of the things I worked out with counselling.
Quote from: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
Mr. Analog, sounds like you've set an allotted time limit and are staying within it, and are doing whatever activity you want within that limit. What Darren's probably experiencing is not staying within that allotted time limit and so other important things in his life are getting bumped. I fully understand this dilemma. Thing A is cool, but thing B needs attention to grow into a proper, useful member of society, thus I can't spend all my time doing thing A.
Actually unless I have something else I have to do I just don't worry about it. The key is being cognisant of how I want to spend my time and not worry about what I "didn't" do :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtcL96CDJf8
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 10:00:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtcL96CDJf8
YEAH-EE-AH EE-YA EE-YA YAH-HAH
YAAAA-EE-YA EE-YA YAH-HAH
what's goin' on
lol
Every time I see this thread title the song starts in my head.
Same. Gotta change my icon later lol
Just need to keep bumping this thread >:D
Also, incase anyone missed it, that last link was to the 10 hour version ;)
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 10:23:15 AM
Just need to keep bumping this thread >:D
Also, incase anyone missed it, that last link was to the 10 hour version ;)
Should start that on low volume and leave it running in the office.
Right, something you have to do. When I hear people talk about timesinks, what I really hear is that they spend too much time on it and don't do the things they have to do. Like watching youtube videos all day instead of writing code to get paid - I would consider youtube a timesink in this case. As opposed to watching youtube videos instead of going for a walk - this is a choice between two leisure activities.
Exactly, the key is choice.
Being aware of how you want to use your time is HUGE
The one thing you shouldn't do is beat yourself up over making the choice though, make the choice, enjoy the consequences (good or bad). It's in the past now and unless Doc Brown shows up all you can do is learn from it and adjust future decision-making.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 09:55:31 AM
I guess what I'm trying to say is you are the master of infinite time, you choose how you spend it and if you want to, change it.
I've had a real problem with this off and on and ultimately it doesn't matter. One of the things I worked out with counselling.
Totally. But remember you are not a Family Guy. Some of us are, and it most certainly impacts time, priorities, etc. Not saying I'm unhappy, just that happy comes from places that it never used to (and thus the "used to" places are taking up less chunks of time).
Being a family guy has nothing to do with what he's saying. It's all about choices, priorities, and free time (what little of it there might be).
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 25, 2013, 12:07:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 09:55:31 AM
I guess what I'm trying to say is you are the master of infinite time, you choose how you spend it and if you want to, change it.
I've had a real problem with this off and on and ultimately it doesn't matter. One of the things I worked out with counselling.
Totally. But remember you are not a Family Guy. Some of us are, and it most certainly impacts time, priorities, etc. Not saying I'm unhappy, just that happy comes from places that it never used to (and thus the "used to" places are taking up less chunks of time).
I knew that was going to come up eventually. Like I have nothing to do ever, one of these days I'll meet all the people that cook, clean, shop, volunteer, manage personal projects, collaborations and sell artwork online who hide around here haha ;)
Having more external pressures means managing time becomes
a lot more critical. It also becomes a lot more important to make room for some guilt-free personal time.
Speaking of which, time to make some lunch and relax with another episode of
Let's Starve :)
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
Being a family guy has nothing to do with what he's saying. It's all about choices, priorities, and free time (what little of it there might be).
Exactly!
Also for the record I didn't mean to single anyone out, this is just something that's been on my mind for a few months and I was finally able to get over it for the most part.
So I have a lot of passion for this subject right now I guess
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 12:16:40 PM
Having more external pressures means managing time becomes a lot more critical. It also becomes a lot more important to make room for some guilt-free personal time.
Right. What he's saying is he has more external pressure therefore has to manage his time more critically. As a result he has less personal time and thus chooses to avoid activities that he expects he will engage in for too long, and that thus would spill out of his personal-time timebox and into his external-pressures timebox. A key point here is that he expects keeping up with all those videos will take longer than the amount of time he has available in his personal-time timebox, and that he does not expect to be able to stop himself from continuing with interesting youtube videos when his personal-time timebox has ended.
Now as for being a family guy, there is a completely different repercussion if watching youtube videos causes you to miss picking up your kid from school than if it causes you to miss cleaning your bathroom. This is why parents feel like they have less time; not because they necessarily have less time, but because the things that encroach on their time can't be as easily ignored, put off, or pushed into a later timebox. I would say the same is true if you have pets. Tom, for instance, couldn't let youtube video viewing push feeding the cat into next week. Heck, even taking care of plants has some urgency.
Anyway, you and Tom are saying it's about free time, Darren is saying he doesn't have enough free time to keep up with the amount of videos he'd want to watch if he started following particular youtube channels. Thus he doesn't follow those youtube channels.
Mmm what I was hearing was a lament that he was already spending too much time, which is something you can control.
So he's lamenting that he's spending too much time and not sticking to his allotted timebox, and then you bug him about not letting himself do something that would be enjoyable. But he doesn't have time to do that enjoyable thing. So what was the problem? That he called that enjoyable thing "wasting time"?
Quote from: Thorin on June 25, 2013, 01:46:27 PM
So he's lamenting that he's spending too much time and not sticking to his allotted timebox, and then you bug him about not letting himself do something that would be enjoyable. But he doesn't have time to do that enjoyable thing. So what was the problem? That he called that enjoyable thing "wasting time"?
I'm willing to be that you (Thorin) are a bajillion times busier than Darren. And yet, you manage to sneak in personal time (though sometimes a bit too much ;)).
I don't know. It just sounds like hes making excuses for his current situation. As if it is completely immutable, and he has no control over it what so ever.
I had challenges letting myself have free time without feeling guilty about it.
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,9669.msg73074.html#msg73074
reeeeeeeeelllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I'm not busier, I'm just engaging in activities that can't be pushed off as easily to make way for others I want to do. People notice if you don't show up to coach the team you said you'd coach, and all that.
I do consider watching tv or youtube or playing minecraft or d&d to be wasting time when looking at it from a production point of view. It doesn't get me anything new or more in my life of the physical things (money included) that are easily counted. But it's enjoyable and de-stressing and I know that will help me live a longer and richer life. Still, I understand why some people call it "wasting time". I just don't agree with those who think wasting time is a bad thing.
As for taking too much personal time, yeah, I have trouble disconnecting when I've reached the end of my personal-time timebox. This usually means my personal-time timebox gobbles up my sleep timebox.
See that's cool, you've got a pretty good grip on how you spend your time, I didn't and I was beating myself up for it.
Again, I apologize because I turned this into a "glomp on Darren" thing which wasn't my intention, just a few words he had put there struck a chord with me.
I'll shut up now :)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
See that's cool, you've got a pretty good grip on how you spend your time, I didn't and I was beating myself up for it.
Again, I apologize because I turned this into a "glomp on Darren" thing which wasn't my intention, just a few words he had put there struck a chord with me.
Indeed. Ditto.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
I'll shut up now :)
Ditto.
The trick is to just get on with life instead of feeling guilty about the past. It's a good idea to learn from the past, but that's not the same as feeling guilty. You can't change the past and you might have to suffer consequences for actions in the past, but you can change your future decisions. Too bad most people don't change their future decisions.
It's basically the same advice I give goalies: if they score on you, forget about it right now because you can't change it. It's okay to think about how they scored on you because there might be a hole in the defenses that you can cover better, but that's it. Now it's time to look at the puck/ring/ball, follow it, and get in the way to make another save. Good goalies never live in the past.
And now both compared side by side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1-LroX84eQ
Whoa you start to see how much work went into the making this way
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 10:00:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtcL96CDJf8
YEAH-EE-AH EE-YA EE-YA YAH-HAH
YAAAA-EE-YA EE-YA YAH-HAH
what's goin' on
lol
Bump for brain bug.
Also to say that, in general, down to less than an hour per day of silly distractions. But it's Mooooonday so here ya go, if you like pain. Link is still live can't believe it. #2013 was half a decade ago WTF have you done with the time? ;)
Quote from: Darren Dirt on April 30, 2018, 11:26:20 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 25, 2013, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Tom on June 25, 2013, 10:00:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtcL96CDJf8
YEAH-EE-AH EE-YA EE-YA YAH-HAH
YAAAA-EE-YA EE-YA YAH-HAH
what's goin' on
lol
Bump for brain bug.
Also to say that, in general, down to less than an hour per day of silly distractions. But it's Mooooonday so here ya go, if you like pain. Link is still live can't believe it. #2013 was half a decade ago WTF have you done with the time? ;)
WHOA talk about kismet... I was kinda curious to see what the YOGS were up to as I unsubscribed after they stopped focusing on Minecraft as much and...not much has changed. They're still playing GTAV Online and Trouble in Terrorist Town (a GMod Mod mode) a once great channel reduced to avg content lol