xp farms and anvils

Started by Thorin, October 31, 2012, 10:19:50 AM

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Mr. Analog

Quote from: LennyLen on November 04, 2012, 05:06:41 AM
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Quote from: Thorin on November 03, 2012, 09:14:12 PM
Nope, it's only valid for the session the batch file started in (and any other programs started by the batch file).  It works perfectly.  In fact, I can start Minecraft from one location, then start another Minecraft from another location, have them both log into the same server and play myself!
Hhmmmmm anyone else find that a bit disturbing?
Everyone has their own way of relieving stress.

He said play myself, not play with myself. :P

LOL!
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Tom

Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 04, 2012, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: LennyLen on November 04, 2012, 05:06:41 AM
Quote from: Tom on November 04, 2012, 03:18:27 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on November 04, 2012, 03:04:52 AM
Quote from: Thorin on November 03, 2012, 09:14:12 PM
Nope, it's only valid for the session the batch file started in (and any other programs started by the batch file).  It works perfectly.  In fact, I can start Minecraft from one location, then start another Minecraft from another location, have them both log into the same server and play myself!
Hhmmmmm anyone else find that a bit disturbing?
Everyone has their own way of relieving stress.

He said play myself, not play with myself. :P

LOL!
Ah Lenny has no sense of humour ;)
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Thorin

My way of relieving stress is dealing with being a coach and dealing with sports parents.

No, wait, that's the opposite.

Anyway, back on track, it works, it really, really works.  Go ahead and try it.
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Pants

Since this is a topic about XP farms, I thought I'd share with you a pretty easy-to-make XP spawner farm.  It only requires water, some redstone, 2 repeaters, a dispenser, and a lava bucket.  It's way easier to make than the standard "water elevator + drop" method.  You can use it to turn any spawner into an XP/item farm in about 30 minutes.  I really should use it on my double cave spider farm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBcopfWHIc
(not my design)

Thorin

Wow that's simple!  You don't even have to measure the up and down or anything...  You still have to set up the water to drag them over, just as before.
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Mr. Analog

That is a brilliant design, so compact...

I had no idea a dispenser could suck lava back in
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Thorin

Dispensers sucking lava back in is pretty new, I think.

[looks on minecraftwiki.net]

As of snapshot 12w21a, so I guess that's new in 1.3.2.
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Mr. Analog

That's cool, I haven't really played around with dispensers much
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Thorin

Me either.  You're supposed to have bows for dispensers, right?  I'll need to find some.

...

:D

Hey, with the Anvil I'll be able to take all my Power I bows and make multiple Power III bows!

Pow I + Pow I = Pow II
Pow I + Pow I = Pow II
Pow II + Pow II = Pow III

So four Power I bows will make a Power III bow.  Did I mention I have a double-chest full of Power I bows?  Here come 13 Power III bows!
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Mr. Analog

Reminds me of crafting in TF2 lol
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Thorin

I just discovered the article that explains in detail how the level cost is calculated for anvils: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Anvil_mechanics

Quote from: Thorin on November 05, 2012, 09:46:05 AM
Hey, with the Anvil I'll be able to take all my Power I bows and make multiple Power III bows!

Pow I + Pow I = Pow II
Pow I + Pow I = Pow II
Pow II + Pow II = Pow III

Cost:

(1+(1-1)*1+1+2*0=2) + (2+2*0) = 4 levels
(1+(1-1)*1+1+2*0=2) + (2+2*0) = 4 levels
(1+(2-1)*1+1+2*1=5) + (2+2*0) = 7 levels

To keep going after the above:

Pow I + Pow I = Pow II
Pow I + Pow I = Pow II
Pow II + Pow II = Pow III
Pow III + Pow III = Pow IV

(1+(1-1)*1+1+2*0=2) + (2+2*0) = 4 levels
(1+(1-1)*1+1+2*0=2) + (2+2*0) = 4 levels
(1+(2-1)*1+1+2*1=5) + (2+2*0) = 7 levels
(1+(3-1)*1+1+2*2=8) + (2+2*1) = 12 levels

So 42 levels total to make a Power IV bow if you have eight Power I bows (I have 60+ from my skelly farm).  All the level costs are below 17, so if I use the anvil as soon as I have enough levels, they're all at the cost of 17xp (aka 3.4 skellies).  So by killing 143 skellies I could make a Power IV bow.

I tried doing the math on my earlier example of making a diamond pickaxe with Efficiency V but HOLY COW COMPLICATED.
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Pants

Quote from: Thorin on November 05, 2012, 01:01:46 PMSo by killing 143 skellies I could make a Power IV bow.

Power IV?  Why stop there?  Here's what I cooked up while idling by my lava bucket skeleton farm whilst watching a movie.  I just need to add Flame II to it, which I think is doable with some more idling.


When looking through my current Minecraft screenshots I also found one of my current house in my 1.4 world.  My son and I built a 7-layer hostile mob farm (as high as we could go before we hit the y=128) directly above our house and I think it looks pretty neat.

http://i.imgur.com/pn5N7.jpg

Thorin

The way Power works is Power 1 does 1.5x damage, Power II does 1.75x, II does 2x, IV does 2.25x, and V does 2.5x.  A fully-charged bow does 4.5 hearts (9 points) damage or somethmes 5 hearts (10 points).

So a Power IV bow normally does 4.5x2.25=10.125 hearts (20 points) damage, enough to kill a hostile mob in one shot.  It sometimes does 5x2.25=11.25 hearts (22 points), more then enough.  Meanwhile a Power V bow would do 4.5x2.5=11.25 hearts (22 points) or 5*2.5=12.5 hearts (25 points).

So it takes a lot less levels to get Power IV and yet Power IV can kill a creeper or zombie in one shot, without having to crit.
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Pants

Quote from: Thorin on November 06, 2012, 12:05:13 AM
So it takes a lot less levels to get Power IV and yet Power IV can kill a creeper or zombie in one shot, without having to crit.

Creepers?  Zombies?  I'm thinking Ender Dragons and Wither bosses.