Would a x800 GT AGP(assuming I can find such an animal) or a 6600 GT AGP be a worthwhile upgrade over a 9800 Pro? I'd like this as an interim upgrade until the dual cores drop in price and the new AMD M2 cpu socket is released. Additionally, would anybody here have a need for a 9800 Pro?
I think it would definately be a jump. My 9800 Pro to X800XT Plat AGP was a massive increase in performance on my current machine. So I think it is worth the change, IMO.
And yeah I always have a use for Vids, but I don't think you would sell it to me at the price I would ask for it.
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And yeah I always have a use for Vids, but I don't think you would sell it to me at the price I would ask for it.
I was thinking $100, but I might be willing to give you a 25% guild discount :)
I went from a 9800 AIW Pro AGP to an x800 PCI-X, its hard to say what was a system improvement and what was the Video card. You should still see a big improvement in most titles going from a 9800 AGP to an x800 AGP.. I would not expect a big change in COH/CoV as it has been optimised for Nvidia and there are still reported ATI frame rate issues.
Quote from: "Ustauk"Quote from: "Melbosa"
And yeah I always have a use for Vids, but I don't think you would sell it to me at the price I would ask for it.
I was thinking $100, but I might be willing to give you a 25% guild discount :)
Hehe, I was thinking under the $50 range myself, so no biggy. Try and sell it for $100 first I think.
I went from a 9700 Pro, to an X800XL, and saw a pretty good jump. Not sure it was worth the $300 though.
Quote from: "Shayne"I went from a 9700 Pro, to an X800XL, and saw a pretty good jump. Not sure it was worth the $300 though.
Yah, I thought about the XL, but I wasn't sure if the cost was worth it. I think a $200 upgrade is more reasonably, particularly if I manage to get $100 for my old card.
Hmm, is $100 a decent price? I might be interested. I'm going to crack open my computers at home tonight and see what they have in them, and then I'll let you know if I wanna buy it, 'k Ust?
Quote from: "Thorin"Hmm, is $100 a decent price? I might be interested. I'm going to crack open my computers at home tonight and see what they have in them, and then I'll let you know if I wanna buy it, 'k Ust?
The cheapest you can get the card new is $169, so a $100 might be a bit much.
http://www.pricenetwork.ca/products.php?p=29Since you're a Righteous Wrath member, I'll give it to you for $75. And that's
cuttin' me own throat :)
Well thank you! AGP, right? Does it come with a DVI-to-VGA dongle? If not, I'll want to find one of those so's I can finally hook up that second monitor sitting on my computer desk...
Quote from: "Thorin"Well thank you! AGP, right? Does it come with a DVI-to-VGA dongle? If not, I'll want to find one of those so's I can finally hook up that second monitor sitting on my computer desk...
Yes, it is AGP. And I believe I do have the DVI to VGA adapter lying around the house someplace. Post what vid card you have tonight, though, to make sure a 9800 Pro is actually an upgrade :)
I can't seem to find a x800 GT. The closest I've found is the
x800 GTO, which has a slower CPU but has four more pipes, and which is apparently fairly overclockable. I'm trying to see if the guys at Memory Express can get it in, but I haven't heard back from them yet.
Finally got around to checking. I have an ATI Radeon 7500 AGP with 64MB onboard. So a 9800 Pro would definitely be an improvement, plus my wife'll finally get her dual monitors like she wanted. How about I come by Monday after work and pick it up? I will need the adapter, so add in whatever you want for that. And thanks for the good deal :)
Quote from: "Thorin"Finally got around to checking. I have an ATI Radeon 7500 AGP with 64MB onboard. So a 9800 Pro would definitely be an improvement, plus my wife'll finally get her dual monitors like she wanted. How about I come by Monday after work and pick it up? I will need the adapter, so add in whatever you want for that. And thanks for the good deal :)
Sounds good. If I can find it, I'll give you the DVI to VGA adapter for free, since it came with the card :) If I can't find it, I'll pick up one for you at OemDepot on Friday or Saturday when I go get the new card. You work at the same spot as Mr. Analog, right? Can we meet at lunch on Monday? I've got Kung Fu after work, so its easier for me to meet you at lunch.
Yes, we work in the same building, perhaps lunch on Monday.
Heh, my secretary answered for me. :D
Sure, we'll arrange a meet on Monday at lunch. I assume mr. A. has your contact information for getting a hold of you while you're at work.
I do indeed.
Well, I ended up getting an x850 Pro instaed of the GTO, as I indicated in this (http://forums.righteouswrath.com/viewtopic.php?p=17621#17621) post.
Thorin, if you want to go for this instead of the 9800 Pro, I'll understand. The x850 Pro does come with a DVI to VGA adapter, at least according to the box.
Err, that's $175 more than the 9800 Pro :o Don't think I have all that extra cash kicking around. You have to know, I have little mouths nibbling at my wallet all day long... Having lots of money to just blow on things for myself is one of the things I miss about bachelorhood :lol:
I'll still be buyin' the 9800 from ye, ye scurvy bilge rat! Arrggghhhh!
Oh, and that does seem to be a decent price for one o' 'em a' th' mom'nt.
Quote from: "Thorin"Err, that's $175 more than the 9800 Pro :o Don't think I have all that extra cash kicking around. You have to know, I have little mouths nibbling at my wallet all day long... Having lots of money to just blow on things for myself is one of the things I miss about bachelorhood :lol:
I'll still be buyin' the 9800 from ye, ye scurvy bilge rat! Arrggghhhh!
I didn't think you'd be able to, but I thought I would give you the option. Does Jekyll and Hyde's at sound good for lunch on Monday?
PS: And talk like a pirate day was September 19. Was somebody watching Pirates of the Carribean last night? :wink:
Yes I was. 'twere on the Tee Vee. Jekyll and Hyde at noon on Monday sounds good. You have the DVI-VGA adapter?
Quote from: "Thorin"Yes I was. 'twere on the Tee Vee. Jekyll and Hyde at noon on Monday sounds good. You have the DVI-VGA adapter?
I haven't found the one that came with the 9800 Pro yet, but if I don't find it you can take the one that came with the x850 pro: I don't need it.
Cool. See you Monday at lunch.
Nuts, Mr. A. ain't here. Ustauk, I'll be down there around 11:45, in case you come early. See ya there, eh?
Quote from: "Thorin"Nuts, Mr. A. ain't here. Ustauk, I'll be down there around 11:45, in case you come early. See ya there, eh?
Sounds good.
Quote from: "Ustauk"Quote from: "Thorin"Yes I was. 'twere on the Tee Vee. Jekyll and Hyde at noon on Monday sounds good. You have the DVI-VGA adapter?
I haven't found the one that came with the 9800 Pro yet, but if I don't find it you can take the one that came with the x850 pro: I don't need it.
Grr... My secondary monitor is clearly getting a signal, but it's not displaying the Windows desktop.
When I say it's clearly getting a signal, I mean that if I change the resolution for the secondary monitor, it blinks and flashes like normal. If I disable the secondary display, the secondary monitor turns off. If I enable the secondary display, the secondary monitor turns on. There's just no bloody image being displayed!
Grr...
I wonder if this is because a DVI-D signal is being supplied to the DVI-VGA converter, where only a DVI-I or DVI-A signal gets properly converted by the DVI-VGA converter? And of course, this is really hard to find information about on the web.
I have switched monitors, by the way, and both monitors work as the primary monitor. Both monitors are even auto-detected to the right kind!
Ustauk, do you still have the manual for this card? I'm wondering if there's an on-board DIP switch that I need to change, or something.
Did you go into the Catalyst control panel, into the Display Manager section, and specify extended desktop in your options? As far as I know, it doesn't have a hardware switch as far as I know. I never used the second monitor output , but I did extend the desktop to the TV out. I'll PM you my number and you can give me a call.
I can probably help you trouble shoot as well.. I have been running Multi monitor for a long time.
1. As Ust said, you need to go into display settings and select Extend my desktop to this monitor.
2. If you reboot the system do both monitors display something? If not there is probably a problem. During boot up both monitors should be displaying the boot process.
Quote from: "Ustauk"Did you go into the Catalyst control panel, into the Display Manager section, and specify extended desktop in your options? As far as I know, it doesn't have a hardware switch as far as I know. I never used the second monitor output , but I did extend the desktop to the TV out. I'll PM you my number and you can give me a call.
Yep I did. The monitor flashes, but doesn't display the desktop.
Quote from: "Lazybones"I can probably help you trouble shoot as well.. I have been running Multi monitor for a long time.
1. As Ust said, you need to go into display settings and select Extend my desktop to this monitor.
2. If you reboot the system do both monitors display something? If not there is probably a problem. During boot up both monitors should be displaying the boot process.
Heh, I used to run multimonitor off of a Matrox G550. There it was dualhead VGA analog hookup. Here it's dualhead VGA analog/DVI(-I?-D?-A?).
1. Yep, did that.
2. No, only the primary monitor displays information. This is why I'm wondering if the DVI-to-VGA adapter is converting wrong or something. Especially as it's not the one that originally came with the card.
I also want to take this opportunity to say that when I extend the desktop the monitor goes from standby mode (orange-coloured power light) to on mode (green-coloured power light). When I un-extend, it goes from on mode back to standby mode. So the monitor is clearly receiving some instructions properly.
If you are not seeing the Post screen durning boot on both then there is a hardward problem, possibley the addaptor.. I would disconnect it unitll UST can find the one that came with the unit.
Just to confirm, you've tried the video card with a single monitor attached through the dvi to vga adaptor on bootup, with nothing attached to the VGA port?
One more question: what do you have the refresh rate and resolution set at for the secondary monitor?
Quote from: "Ustauk"Just to confirm, you've tried the video card with a single monitor attached through the dvi to vga adaptor on bootup, with nothing attached to the VGA port?
Huh, good question, hadn't thought to try that. I will right away and let you know :)
Quote from: "Ustauk"One more question: what do you have the refresh rate and resolution set at for the secondary monitor?
When I first installed the card both displays were set to 640x480/60Hz/8 bit colour. After getting the latest Catalyst drivers (5.11) I set both displays to 1024x768/85Hz/32 bit colour. After setting that, I tried both monitors on the VGA port and they both worked, and I tried both monitors on the DVI port (with the opposite monitor on the VGA port).
AGAIN if you don't see the post screen on bother monitors YOU HAVE A HARDWARE PROBLEM.
The post screen is before the drivers and is always set to a default safe res and refresh rate.. No matter what the card is set to in the driver in windows you should be seeing everything on both monitors right up until the Windows black screen with the little chaser bar is finished loading.
After that only the primary will display if you do not have auto login and the login screen is displayed.
If all that worked and you get to the desktop the second dispay will only work after the extend desktop setting is set.
Yup, got it, 'bones. I've been wondering all along if the adapter (eg hardware) is converting the signal correctly. I wish I had an LCD with a DVI plug to test it out :|
Anyway, hopefully Ustauk can find the original adapter and I can try that. Otherwise, I'll have to contact ATI and ask them if there's a difference between the adapter supplied with the 9800 Pro vs the X850 Pro.
I found the adapter this morning. I left a message with Thorin, so hopefully we can get together at lunch so I can give the adapter to him. My monitor was hooked via DVI to that card before I pulled it out that machine, and it was working fine. If the adapter doesn't work, I can haul my monitor up to Thorin's place and check the port with that.
Sadly Dutchor is at home tending to his Evil Horde, I can pick it up from you though, where do you want to meet?
Quote from: "Mr. Analog"Sadly Dutchor is at home tending to his Evil Horde, I can pick it up from you though, where do you want to meet?
Maybe Queen Donair?
How about Hong Kong Delight?
Quote from: "Mr. Analog"How about Hong Kong Delight?
Never been, but sure. 11:45 or 12:00?
11:45 means we beat the Gov't rush.
Quote from: "Mr. Analog"11:45 means we beat the Gov't rush.
K
FYI, bring cash! They don't take interac.
Oh yes, and like most non-American-Fanchise restaurants; no free refills.
Quote from: "Mr. Analog"Oh yes, and like most non-American-Fanchise restaurants; no free refills.
Although if you ask for green tea, you get a big whopping pot of it.
Quote from: "Thorin"Quote from: "Mr. Analog"Oh yes, and like most non-American-Fanchise restaurants; no free refills.
Although if you ask for green tea, you get a big whopping pot of it.
That's for sure, and it's decent green tea, not dirt with water.