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General => Tech Chat => Topic started by: Darren Dirt on March 12, 2014, 09:16:58 AM

Title: HTML -- what Berners-Lee left out
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 12, 2014, 09:16:58 AM
Quote from: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/12/world_wide_web_at_25_for_luvvies_and_vcs_or_everyone_berners_lee/
The brilliantly clever bit of Berners-Lee's proposal (full text available here) was the simplicity - he'd created an instantly useful document management system. For a while, as the internet was opened up, Berners-Lee's HTML was just another navigation system alongside Gopher and WAIS. But by the end of 1994 VC money turned an academic side project into Netscape, and from that point on, the world would have to work with HTML.

So, we've been struggling with the compromises and omissions of the hack ever since.

...if you want a glimpse of "the future of the web" today, strictly speaking, you only need to look at what Berners-Lee left out (and what XML and other specs ?restored?, to some extent) 18 years ago. ...the web we use today is far dumber than it should be.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/12/online-magna-carta-berners-lee-web
https://webwewant.org


tech flashback: first wwwebpage ever
Title: Re: HTML -- what Berners-Lee left out
Post by: Thorin on March 12, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
So...  What did Berners-Lee leave out?
Title: Re: HTML -- what Berners-Lee left out
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 19, 2014, 02:59:57 PM
Quote from: Thorin on March 12, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
So...  What did Berners-Lee leave out?

Hard to put into words specifically, but it's definitely grown into something more complex and also more limited (and limiting*) than what he envisioned decades ago... And it's likely to only get worse.

On a similar theme re. internet and control, Edward Snowden just this week gave a 35 minute talk  at TED2014 about surveillance and internet freedom -- "Here's how we take it back" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVwAodrjZMY
Title: Re: HTML -- what Berners-Lee left out
Post by: Darren Dirt on July 09, 2014, 06:01:34 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on March 19, 2014, 02:59:57 PM

it's definitely grown into something more complex and also more limited (and limiting*) than what he envisioned decades ago... And it's likely to only get worse.

On a similar theme re. internet and control, Edward Snowden just this week gave a 35 minute talk  at TED2014 about surveillance and internet freedom -- "Here's how we take it back" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVwAodrjZMY



Edward Snowden has given up on truth and liberty and whatnot.

He* is on TINDER.

http://imgur.com/gallery/jxFbF








































*no he's not. but it's some lulz.