You guys know of any good Sci Fi movies? Lately, I've found that Transformer II and GI Joe were pretty good, but I think there's gonna be this AWESOME movie around the corner. What about you?
Avatar was worth all the hype!
Yeah that looks like a good movie too! :)
Holy cow, where to start? Now, obviously some of these are more adult, so take with a grain of salt.
2001 a Space Odyssey
Alien
Blade Runner
Brazil
Castle in the Sky (Laputa)
A Clockwork Orange
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Code 46
Colossus: The Forbin Project
Dark City
The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951, not the new one)
Donnie Darko
Dr. No
Enemy Mine
Forbidden Planet
Ghost in the Shell
Heavy Metal
The Iron Giant
Lupin III: Castle of Caligostro
The Matrix (only watch the first one, the others ruin it)
Metropolis (both the 1927 film and the 2001 anime)
Patlabor: the Movie
Rock & Rule
Silent Running
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Thirteenth Floor
Tron
Twelve Monkeys
WALL-E
WarGames
War of the Worlds (1953 version)
For science fiction television series I recommend the following:
The Outer Limits (1963-1965)
Doctor Who
Farscape
Stargate
Space: Above & Beyond
Star Trek, original series seasons 1 & 2
Blake's 7
The Starlost (considered by some the worst science fiction program ever made, however I differ significantly on this, it's a very Canadian look at sci-fi)
For some great animated sci-fi from Japan:
Cowboy Bebop
Last Exile
Bubblegum Crisis
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki
Space Battleship Yamato (Star Blazers)
And a great sci-fi animated series for any age!
Samurai Jack
:)
Obviously there are more, this is just of the top of my head...
District 9 (don't recall what it is rated, it does contain exploding people and swearing) I just saw again and still like.. I think Avatar is worth it if you see it in a BIG theater in 3D.
I saw Avatar not in 3D, because I get motion sickness, and still think it is a big deal to see it in the theatre. Movie just screams big screen when you see it.
Quote from: Melbosa on December 31, 2009, 07:16:22 PM
I saw Avatar not in 3D, because I get motion sickness, and still think it is a big deal to see it in the theatre. Movie just screams big screen when you see it.
Yeah, it is really nice to see the movie in the theatres. I feel it's a lot better to watch a movie with 1 story tall speakers behind you. But it sucks when you need to go pee during the film. Espcially during Avatar. Holy cow that thing is 2 1/2 hours long!
I only like big sound if the engineer has set it so you can hear the whole range of sound. I remember going to North Edmonton Cinema and the audio had virtually no midrange, yuck.
I've stayed away from Avatar mostly because it sounds rather ham-fisted in its retelling of Pocahontas (I've also heard it compared to Dune). For 2 1/2 hours I better get something as good or better than The Lord of the Rings or Seven Samurai :P
Also, speaking about pee... the worst case of "gotta go at the wrong time" was when I went to see Titanic, I had ordered a large Coke and literally as soon as the iceberg struck the ship I had that feeling...
I knew from that point there was an hour left in the film but so much cool stuff was finally happening I didn't want to go. Suffice to say when the credits hit I raced to the can, in the nick of time too.
Quote from: Stewie521 on February 06, 2010, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on December 31, 2009, 07:16:22 PM
I saw Avatar not in 3D, because I get motion sickness, and still think it is a big deal to see it in the theatre. Movie just screams big screen when you see it.
Yeah, it is really nice to see the movie in the theatres. I feel it's a lot better to watch a movie with 1 story tall speakers behind you. But it sucks when you need to go pee during the film. Espcially during Avatar. Holy cow that thing is 2 1/2 hours long!
I find I prefer my setup at home. The surround is fairly well balanced, the bass isn't too ham-fisted, and plenty of mid and high range. That and I have a pause button. I also don't have to worry about being embarrassed about laughing too loud ;D (or some other such outburst).
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 06, 2010, 10:53:44 PM
I only like big sound if the engineer has set it so you can hear the whole range of sound. I remember going to North Edmonton Cinema and the audio had virtually no midrange, yuck.
I've stayed away from Avatar mostly because it sounds rather ham-fisted in its retelling of Pocahontas (I've also heard it compared to Dune). For 2 1/2 hours I better get something as good or better than The Lord of the Rings or Seven Samurai :P
Also, speaking about pee... the worst case of "gotta go at the wrong time" was when I went to see Titanic, I had ordered a large Coke and literally as soon as the iceberg struck the ship I had that feeling...
I knew from that point there was an hour left in the film but so much cool stuff was finally happening I didn't want to go. Suffice to say when the credits hit I raced to the can, in the nick of time too.
Whats worse is when you had dinner just before the movie and sucked down several glasses of pop (or beer), then had a large pop (or extra large, whatever they call it) at the theatre.. And finally by the end you literally have to run, and are stuck waiting a couple minutes waiting for it to finish... Like those jokes you see on tv or in movies about the same thing, you might think you're just about done, but nope, still more! ;)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 06, 2010, 10:53:44 PM
I've stayed away from Avatar mostly because it sounds rather ham-fisted in its retelling of Pocahontas (I've also heard it compared to Dune). For 2 1/2 hours I better get something as good or better than The Lord of the Rings or Seven Samurai :P
I recommend you see this movie, it's an
experience. Sure, the plot's been done before, but how many movies these days have a completely fresh approach and plot? Even
Matrix had a whole bunch of prior art in the cyberpunk science-fiction/science-fantasy genre of books. Hell, "The Matrix" was the name for a 3D virtual experience that allowed you to interact with computers as if it were a real world in the Shadowrun rulebooks, back in the mid 80s. So the name isn't even original.
All that being said, I found the story clipped along at a decent pace, the story was compelling enough to keep me watching in rapt attention, the sci-fi nature of the film appealed to my inner geek, and the visuals of this abundantly detailed world were beautiful.
Of course if you've been reading reviews, the hardest part will be walking through the theater doors without any preconceived notions in your noggin.
That's the killer right there, I knew all about this movie months before it came out, the internet buzz machine was in full swing. From what I can tell the core of the film is, yet again, critical of Western history/society and (based on reviews I've read from other sci-fi geeks) paints the story with the delicacy of a mop. But it looks pretty so people give it a free ride.
:shrug:
Really, is there much out there that hasn't been told already on the big screen? At least for what the masses would enjoy?
Avatar is a feel good movie, and as Thorin says, well done all around. It may be a re-done story (not a remake like so many other movies), but it is done with superb visuals, acting and pace. So it makes the movie come alive and engross you from beginning to end.
The Titanic was a retold story. The Dark Night was a retold story. Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter being based from a book are a retold stories. In the top 10, the only Original Movies would be the Pirates of the Caribbean and Star Wars.
Really, IMO, it doesn't matter if the story is a remake, retell, rework or original. If it is done well, entertains me, and I feel I get my money's worth, then it is a good movie to me.
And so like Thorin, I urge all of you to see this movie. It is one that deserves Big Screen viewing, whether you have that fantastic home theatre experience or not.
My only regret is that I cannot watch this in 3D, as I hear the movie was filmed with that in mind from the beginning.
All I've heard about it says it was ham fisted. And WASN'T "well done all around".
Quote from: Tom on February 07, 2010, 01:57:49 PM
All I've heard about it says it was ham fisted. And WASN'T "well done all around".
Hmm, that word "all" implies that, well, you have not heard anyone say it was anything other than ham-fisted. Yet here are two people, friends even, who have actually gone and seen it and who are actually saying it was a very enjoyable experience.
Now if you were to say "all critics" or "all people except you two", that'd be different. But here we are, saying that we liked it and think you will too, and you're discounting what we're saying.
Nevertheless, everyone likes something different and even on movies we never always agree. For example, everyone on this forum really talked up Watchmen. I didn't enjoy watching Watchmen, even though I could see the brilliance of the film - I just wasn't entertained by it. The same might happen for you with Avatar.
Quote from: Thorin on February 07, 2010, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Tom on February 07, 2010, 01:57:49 PM
All I've heard about it says it was ham fisted. And WASN'T "well done all around".
Hmm, that word "all" implies that, well, you have not heard anyone say it was anything other than ham-fisted. Yet here are two people, friends even, who have actually gone and seen it and who are actually saying it was a very enjoyable experience.
Now if you were to say "all critics" or "all people except you two", that'd be different. But here we are, saying that we liked it and think you will too, and you're discounting what we're saying.
Nevertheless, everyone likes something different and even on movies we never always agree. For example, everyone on this forum really talked up Watchmen. I didn't enjoy watching Watchmen, even though I could see the brilliance of the film - I just wasn't entertained by it. The same might happen for you with Avatar.
I should rephrase "All I'd heard so far". Sure some people say its ok as a typical block buster, but still ham fisted. I'm not saying I won't watch it, but it probably wont happen till its out on DVD. I so rarely go to see movies, I generally don't even go to see the ones I really want to watch.
Quote from: Thorin on February 07, 2010, 03:23:42 PM
Nevertheless, everyone likes something different and even on movies we never always agree. For example, everyone on this forum really talked up Watchmen. I didn't enjoy watching Watchmen, even though I could see the brilliance of the film - I just wasn't entertained by it. The same might happen for you with Avatar.
Yeah Watchman for me was .... meh... that is about what summed it up. Was alright, was ok, wasn't a complete waste of my time. But it wasn't huge in my books. But I was the same about Sin City as well.
Quote from: Melbosa on February 07, 2010, 07:19:25 PM
Yeah Watchman for me was .... meh... that is about what summed it up. Was alright, was ok, wasn't a complete waste of my time. But it wasn't huge in my books. But I was the same about Sin City as well.
i fell asleep during sin city and still havn't bothered to watch it all the way through... but the same could be said for Citizen Cainon my part.
I want to see Zombieland! It looks hilarious! :D Some of my friends have told me about it, and I really want to see it for myself now.
There are plenty of stories yet to be told; but the system as it stands today is calculated to bring in a profit which means less gambling on new stories and more banking on existing (or formulaic) stories, so I doubt very much that we'll see much creativity on the scene these days (unless some new up-and-comer blows a hole in the system).
The challenge I give to those who saw Avatar is what new things did it say about humanity?
Again I'll say this; I'm sure it's a great movie with lots of spectacle and emotion (like many I listed in my first response), but it seems like an all-too familiar premise being kicked around again, so I probably won't see it on the big screen because I already have a fairly negative view of it and I could use the $20 better somewhere else.
:)
Quote from: Stewie521 on February 09, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
I want to see Zombieland! It looks hilarious! :D Some of my friends have told me about it, and I really want to see it for myself now.
It's a highly rated comedy with a lot of enthusiasm and absurdity. A funny movie more than a scary one. I kind of preferred
Shaun of the Dead but that's just me. That said, it is rated "R" for violence/gore and language, according to the MPAA "parents are counseled to take this rating very seriously".
"Top 50 Science Fiction Films" a majority of these I have seen, and enjoyed. how many have YOU seen?
http://www.imdb.com/list/YXf5d3Ixul8/
PS: surprised/disappointed to see ^ this^ was missing quite a few good ones on Mr. Analog's list ( http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,7264.msg46854.html#msg46854 ) ... but I guess if you're limiting yourself to 50, you gotta exclude some. (Listing 107 of them allows for extras, though: http://www.imdb.com/list/1t9qe2TSJ3s/ )
Quote from: Darren Dirt on April 14, 2011, 11:23:49 AM
"Top 50 Science Fiction Films" a majority of these I have seen, and enjoyed. how many have YOU seen?
http://www.imdb.com/list/YXf5d3Ixul8/
PS: surprised/disappointed to see ^ this^ was missing quite a few good ones on Mr. Analog's list ( http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,7264.msg46854.html#msg46854 ) ... but I guess if you're limiting yourself to 50, you gotta exclude some. (Listing 107 of them allows for extras, though: http://www.imdb.com/list/1t9qe2TSJ3s/ )
Found a couple movies I'll have to check out. But, K-Pax listed as the number 1 movie....
Quote from: Mags on April 15, 2011, 01:02:34 AMFound a couple movies I'll have to check out. But, K-Pax listed as the number 1 movie....
Exactly, plus they have 2010 but not 2001?
The inclusion of certain titles leads me to believe this is a Hipster List, some interesting titles but, still, HIPSTER LIST
Oh man, I've watched so many more since my last post, maybe it's time to update it :D
apparently 2011 (and 2012) = tons of HUGE sci fi films...
http://www.imdb.com/list/TweyHamu78M/
... including some interesting, and surprising*, adaptations/remakes/reboots
*zomg the horror... http://io9.com/5469917/roland-emmerich-wants-to-avatar+up-isaac-asimovs-foundation , http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/19500/id4-sequel-dead-asimov-s-foundation-alive/
Some interesting stuff, some fluff too... it's going to be an interesting year
So here's a surprising B-Movie.
"Creation of the Humanoids" (1962), in a post-apocalypse futuristic society humans have built a series of robots to help them rebuild. As the technology progresses the robots start looking more and more human-like, this is disquieting to a minority extremist group that sees the rise of these humanoid robots as usurping humanity. This story concerns one of those extremists getting tangled up in a plot to actively begin replacing humans, why are the robots doing it? To preserve what's left of mankind.
I don't want to blow the plot twists (I know, I know, it's a 50 year old movie) but it deals with a lot of interesting subjects like racism, love, intolerance, mortality and the very meaning of self.
This is a very talky flick (as are many B-Movies), the sets are limited and it is somewhat direct in its delivery but it's surprisingly well written.
Worth your time to check out.
Worth clicking your clicker to check out the Clickers?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on March 25, 2012, 10:52:20 AM
As the technology progresses the robots start looking more and more human-like, this is disquieting to a minority extremist group that sees the rise of these humanoid robots as usurping humanity. This story concerns one of those extremists getting tangled up in a plot to actively begin replacing humans, why are the robots doing it? To preserve what's left of mankind.
Sounds a little like battlestar doesn't it? Minus the space battles...
Quote from: Darren Dirt on March 26, 2012, 11:40:31 AM
Worth clicking your clicker to check out the Clickers?
Affirmative!
Quote from: Lazybones on March 26, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on March 25, 2012, 10:52:20 AM
As the technology progresses the robots start looking more and more human-like, this is disquieting to a minority extremist group that sees the rise of these humanoid robots as usurping humanity. This story concerns one of those extremists getting tangled up in a plot to actively begin replacing humans, why are the robots doing it? To preserve what's left of mankind.
Sounds a little like battlestar doesn't it? Minus the space battles...
The twists are much better IMO
Quote from: Melbosa on February 07, 2010, 12:19:30 PM
The Titanic was a retold story. The Dark Night was a retold story. Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter being based from a book are a retold stories.
Star Wars: Retold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTCYdZTj2A
The Matrix: Retold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMf9GlLXouA
both sci-fi, both retold. So it's related to this thread ;)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 31, 2009, 03:18:35 PM
Holy cow, where to start? Now, obviously some of these are more adult, so take with a grain of salt.
...
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
by the way, did you know that due to the ridic budget of ST:TMP the sequel was produced as, essentially, a "bottle episode"? :headAsplode:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BottleEpisode#Film
I think that's stretching what Melbosa meant by "retold" which to me fell somewhere between reboot (Batman/Spiderman) and adaptation (Titanic)
What those links are talking about is something like recollecting bits and pieces into a vague narrative (the guy who did the thing with the thing), pretty funny stuff but maybe should have been in its own thread
The story of Wrath of Khan is an interesting one, for one they ditched Roddenberry as Producer and hired Harve Bennett. Harve hadn't seen Star Trek before so apparently he went back to the original series and watched the whole thing end to end, apparently he saw the Motion Picture as well and found it slow and plodding and lacking any real tension (as did probably 9/10ths of the human race lol) finding a really strong character in Khan by way of the television series he proceeded to work around that character as a concept. He put together his team and went off to the races trying to make the film as quickly and cheaply as possible.
Of course some of the things you notice about Wrath of Khan are recycled shots from TMP, a much smaller supporting cast, virtually no extras, extensive set redressing, sets from the unused Star Trek Phase II project and so on.
The key to Khan is the story it tells and the powerful characters it creates and of course the way over the top dialogue, you don't have to know much about Star Trek to enjoy Khan, but the fact that you do know things makes it all the sweeter (well, except for some minor quibbles such as how Khan would recognise Chekov when they had never met before...)
The script overall was mostly happy accident I think, or maybe putting it in better terms the right collection of things happened to make it happen. There were a lot of alternative scripts and ideas floating around (and a writers strike somewhere in there too!) it's amazing we got the story we did, and I for one am glad it turned out the way it did.
I can't recall if I said this before but I don't really consider the Star Trek films to be all that "sci-fi"-ey, sci-fantasy yes, but not like the series where some more serious/interesting themes were explored.
:)