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Title: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 04, 2013, 02:14:10 PM
So I need just a little help with a bit of Photoshop on my end.

I have this logo see, and I want to put it on the back of a black jacket see, and that logo I want to looks like its busten out of that back of that jacket see...

I want to make it look like the logo broke through the Jacket's back, maybe like a tear or crack, or clawed through... can someone more talented than I make that work?  I can provide the PSD of the logo as well if someone can help me out.

NOTE: Blue Background is just for show - logo is minus the blue background.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 04, 2013, 02:24:06 PM
I'll see what I can do, I have lot of other projects goin' at the moment
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 04, 2013, 02:49:10 PM
I am looking to put in an order for the Jacket Friday, so am looking for help by then.  I am not looking for anything super fancy, just simple.

If not I can always see if someone else can help.  Let me know if that is too quick for you.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 04, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
If it helps, here is the Jacket, and the Jacket with the Logo on top.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 04, 2013, 03:08:44 PM
K, that helps

I'll give it a whack tonight but that's all I gots
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 04, 2013, 03:11:09 PM
Send me the PSD plz
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 04, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
Here's a link to the PSD as well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/blbt2hmwnxpyvs4/FSB%20Logo.psd
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 04, 2013, 03:13:44 PM
Thx!
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 08:12:39 AM
So I played with a technique for doing this, I'm not sure how it will look on a black background but we can give it a shot.

The question I have is how will the logo be applied to the jacket? Is it going to be a patch or some kind of silk screening process?
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 08:57:43 AM
Heat transfer actually.  More detailed print than a Silk Screen and just as durable.  It won't be coming off in the Rain and can be as detailed as you like.  With Silk Screens I would have to stick to a low number of colours as the colour count ups the cost.  Not so much with the Heat Transfer technique.  The downside to Heat Transfer is that over time it will crack.  But on rain proof materials you can only do a Heat Transfer, Silk Screen will ruin the material - so I am told.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 09:15:46 AM
Is transparency supported?
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 09:31:40 AM
My Logo is transparent where the Blue Part is, so yeah I would say so (Blue was just to see what it would look like on the same color Jersey).
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 09:41:59 AM
Righty dokey I will be playing around with different opacities so that the fabric of the jacket becomes part of the tearing effect.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 09:45:19 AM
That is what I was hoping for.  Although I am not sure if the heat transfer allows for partial transparencies.  I can check.

Otherwise could just make it a shape that is no conformed (like as if someone punched through a piece of paper and you cut the hole exactly around the tear edges) and fill in the middle with what ever you want.  Our team color is Royal Blue if that helps in any way.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 09:55:33 AM
That helps, also I can use a moire pattern to simulate varying opacities

Example images also help, if you know what you want from another logo I can reproduce it in a few hours.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 09:59:53 AM
Something like this: http://jgstudios.photoshelter.com/image/I0000n62L1MKXk9c but with the Cloth look not paper.  And the Logo coming out in the middle - primary reason is to help with the Black of the bat and outline of the Dino which doesn't show good on the Black of the Jacket.  So some other color to show the Black parts of the logo is why the break through concept here.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 10:01:10 AM
But you don't have to stick with the Cloth idea either.  if you think it looks better breaking out of a cobble street or a brick wall or something else, by all means, feel free.  Coolness but don't spend too much time on it.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Oddly enough that's the exact look I was going for (so good, we're on the same page there).

Also to clarify, you want the dino bursting out of the logo (the circle with the lettering) and not just he entire logo bursting from the background?

'Cause I can totes do that, the thing I was worried about was the contrast of having the burst effect on a black/jacket background, if it's over the circle with the text on it then we have lots to work with because we can use contrast!
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 11:04:46 AM
The Logo minus the Blue background has to stay as is.  That is the team branding.  So that logo can be any way you want it to be so long as it isn't altered on its surface (so you can 3D it, add shadow, add movement/action lines making it look like it traveled, etc).  Make sense?
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Not really, mostly because of this (stating that you want the dino highlighted):

Quote from: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 09:59:53 AM
Something like this: http://jgstudios.photoshelter.com/image/I0000n62L1MKXk9c but with the Cloth look not paper.  And the Logo coming out in the middle - primary reason is to help with the Black of the bat and outline of the Dino which doesn't show good on the Black of the Jacket.  So some other color to show the Black parts of the logo is why the break through concept here.

I thought the dino was bordered by the circle (I don't have it in front of my face).

I can have the whole circular logo bursting out, I'm just concerned that the lack of contrast due to the black background it's going on is going to lessen the bursting effect.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 05, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
The dino is bordered by the circle but all is the logo.  If you fit the logo in the "hole"of the bust through you should get the contrast I hope.  Do what you think is best.

Btw this thread has a png of the logo if you need reference.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 05, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
I know, I'm just going through the forum while waiting for my debugger

Ok, I'll come up with-a somethin'
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 06, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
I'm currently exporting 2 versions my machine is running low on available RAM the 2 versions are 1 dark and one light for both kind of background

These files are going to be big so how do you want them?
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 06, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
Okay, here are the proofs:

1. Designed for a light background shadow opacity is lighter

2. Designed for a black background higher contrast / shadow opacity

Let me know which one you want (or both?) the files are nearly 500 MB each.

EDIT: Just so you know, these PNGs are 1000x1000 px, the PSD files are six times that (I think I used the DPI setting of the original work).

Cheers,
Mr. A
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Thorin on June 07, 2013, 12:55:34 AM
Nice work man.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Tom on June 07, 2013, 01:09:44 AM
Yup, lookin snazzy.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 07, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
Thanks guys. Looking at it now I think I should have used a slightly lower resolution for some of the effects but otherwise not bad for a first try!

I also learnt some stuff about layer maskes I didn't know about before so yay! 4 hours of work including research
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 07, 2013, 11:24:59 AM
Awesome work!  Can u share the PSDs though dropbox?  I want the high rez for sure!
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 07, 2013, 11:26:46 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on June 07, 2013, 11:24:59 AM
Awesome work!  Can u share the PSDs though dropbox?  I want the high rez for sure!

Sure, let me install dropbox

PLEASE let me know if you want any changes. I'm off work today so I have some time to make edits.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 07, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
Dark Version:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2860784/logo%20black.psd

Light Version:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2860784/logo.psd

The client indicates these files are still uploading.

Cheers,
Mr. A
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Melbosa on June 07, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
Hope they are done now... started download.
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 07, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on June 07, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
Hope they are done now... started download.

Should be yeah!
Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 07, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 07, 2013, 12:55:34 AM
Nice work man.
+1! #speechless

Title: Re: Little Help Photoshop Gurus
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 07, 2013, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 07, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 07, 2013, 12:55:34 AM
Nice work man.
+1! #speechless

Thanks friend.

It's dangerous now I have some new skills, it seems like every time I try something new I learn something new, in this case it was all about mask layers.

I HAVE THE POWERRRRRR!