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Title: What to do when PCs fail a skill check
Post by: Mr. Analog on May 21, 2018, 08:05:31 AM
This post is rather amusing and gives some good tips on what to do if a skill check roll fails: https://failedyoursavingthrow.tumblr.com/post/165278456925/costs-of-a-failed-skill-check

QuoteGame Master Tip: Failed skill checks must affect and/or advance something. Otherwise, it?s just meaningless, time-wasting, and pace-breaking padding.
Title: Re: What to do when PCs fail a skill check
Post by: Thorin on May 21, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Man, that's a solid point.
Title: Re: What to do when PCs fail a skill check
Post by: Melbosa on May 22, 2018, 05:34:05 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: What to do when PCs fail a skill check
Post by: Tom on May 24, 2018, 09:20:37 AM
I guess that isn't meaning a natural 1, but rather a normal fail... Yeah, I could see it have an effect and not be too annoyed as long as it isn't too onerous.
Title: Re: What to do when PCs fail a skill check
Post by: Thorin on May 24, 2018, 12:53:25 PM
I like the example given of failing a spot check for finding tracks, where the ranger leads the party in the wrong direction for a couple of hours.  Wastes some time, and in an inhospitable environment might waste a few resources by costing hit points through heat or cold damage.  Just like when you fail a saving throw and take damage, or fail an attack roll and don't take down the enemy who now hits you and does some damage.

One thing I wish they'd add back in to 5th edition is the concept of minions, though - single-hit monsters that aren't so underpowered that they can't hit the heroes (anti-heroes?  murder-hobos?  whatever you want to call the player characters).