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Title: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on July 14, 2014, 04:34:03 PM
IN light of earlier discussion this dropped earlier today:
http://www.neowin.net/news/new-start-menu-leaks-in-windows-build-9788
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/186212-leaked-build-of-windows-9-shows-reborn-start-menu-metro-apps-running-on-the-desktop

A new start menu and metro apps running on the desktop
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Melbosa on July 15, 2014, 03:22:01 PM
Nice. One of the updates for Windows 8.1 already lets you run Metro Apps in a desktop window, but nice to see it will be carried over to Windows 9.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on July 15, 2014, 03:50:37 PM
Yep, 8.1 brought some improvements, hopefully 9 continues that trend
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
It's now officially Windows 10, and combines the start menu with tiles

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/30/6868695/microsoft-windows-10-announced-official

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/brierdudley/2014/09/29/microsoft-previews-windows-9/

http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/microsoft-announces-windows-10/

I don't have to add an "All Programs" button to my Win 8 desktop anymore
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:23:02 PM
Yeah, they've been leaking pictures of the new start menu for a while. I can say I don't hate it. and Windows X (X Windows??? lol) may be an upgrade I'm willing to make.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
But Late 2015 is waaayyy too long. I thought they were supposed to be speeding up the release timelines?
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
Yeah, talk about a missed opportunity for Windows X (all the cool stuff has X in it)

:)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
Just be glad they didn't go with Windows One.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 30, 2014, 01:41:20 PM
perhaps "Windows 10" is actually binary so it is "Windows 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2.0)" #fullcircle ;)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:42:30 PM
I'm still waiting for Windows ME*

Metro Edition

hahaha
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
How about Windows Mine? :o
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
How about Windows Mine? :o

It would have to have Java pre-installed for people to really Dig It
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
How about Windows Mine? :o

It would have to have Java pre-installed for people to really Dig It
ISWYDT.

But all it really needs is some tweaking and J#.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
How about Windows Mine? :o

It would have to have Java pre-installed for people to really Dig It
ISWYDT.

But all it really needs is some tweaking and J#.

Boosh: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jscompiler/
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
MS already has a J# though! They can just use that!
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 02:02:24 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
MS already has a J# though! They can just use that!

No, they have the .NET Framework, which J# syntax can be compiled into running under.

I think you're thinking of Visual J++ haha :)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 02:02:24 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
MS already has a J# though! They can just use that!

No, they have the .NET Framework, which J# syntax can be compiled into running under.

I think you're thinking of Visual J++ haha :)
Nope. I was speaking of language only. I know J# is compiled to the CLR. I said they can tweak the java to compile under J#!!!! Cause Microsoft.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Lazybones on September 30, 2014, 02:34:09 PM
Had heard they where doping all numbers and where going to refer to it as just Windows.

I then suspected it would switch to a subscription model with perpetual upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 02:45:28 PM
Yeah, I was sorta thinking the same thing. But they may have gotten some pretty significant lash-back.

But more frequent updates with lower cost would interest me greatly. Not going to spend >$150 on a windows update. Heck, I don't want to spend >$50.... But if it was <= $50, I'd probably do it much more often than my current /never/.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 02:52:12 PM
I doubt they'd go with subscription only, at first it seems like a good idea, keep people on the treadmill forever, but then the reality sinks in when you consider a good chunk of their user base refuses to let go of things like Windows XP making it financially risky for them to innovate a new OS.

That said Adobe has gone in that direction with their flagship product (with muted success.)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Thorin on September 30, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Why are they skipping Windows 9 as a name?

And yes, some people haven't let go of XP yet, possibly because they haven't updated their hardware in eight years <nonchalantly whistles and looks away>
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Marketing (aka heavy drinking)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 30, 2014, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 02:45:28 PM
Yeah, I was sorta thinking the same thing. But they may have gotten some pretty significant lash-back.

But more frequent updates with lower cost would interest me greatly.

So, wait, you actually like how often Firefox pumps out a new version upgrade that requires a restart? I'm getting kinda sick of it (I basically never read the one-time page that summarizes why it's better this time; seems 2-3 times per month a new update)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on September 30, 2014, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 02:45:28 PM
Yeah, I was sorta thinking the same thing. But they may have gotten some pretty significant lash-back.

But more frequent updates with lower cost would interest me greatly.

So, wait, you actually like how often Firefox pumps out a new version upgrade that requires a restart? I'm getting kinda sick of it (I basically never read the one-time page that summarizes why it's better this time; seems 2-3 times per month a new update)
I said more often, not every week. :P
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 30, 2014, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: Thorin on September 30, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Why are they skipping Windows 9 as a name?

Because it would be "WINDOWS NEIN" in certain countries, and customers subliminally saying no to you when you even mention your product name when trying to sell it to them = bad business model. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 04:12:43 PM
In Japan the word for the number 9 sounds kind of like... suffering so... hmm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_superstitions#Numbers
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
In german it also sounds like the word for no.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Thorin on September 30, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
No, in that language it would be Windows Neun (pronounced roughly "Noin").

I actually do want to know the real reason they're skipping a version number...  I hope it's not because of some stupid superstition.
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 30, 2014, 04:33:16 PM
Iiiiiiiit's Marketing

Windows 7 aka Windows 6.1

Your puny Logic has no place in Marketing
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 30, 2014, 04:43:20 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
In german it also sounds like the word for no. (NEIN)

That's what my joke was referring to -- I even spelled it out (literally!)
Title: Re: Windows 9 Leak Shows Start Menu
Post by: Tom on September 30, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on September 30, 2014, 04:43:20 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 30, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
In german it also sounds like the word for no. (NEIN)

That's what my joke was referring to -- I even spelled it out (literally!)

Didn't see your message at all :o