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Title: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 23, 2014, 08:15:12 AM
Here's a Quora discussion that could have turned into something very different than it did -- http://www.quora.com/Do-you-believe-that-people-should-be-legally-prevented-from-disconnecting-from-the-violinist-should-they-choose-to-do-so

I like how -- as in other excellent Quora reads I have enjoyed -- instead of participants simply answering, they question the question itself :)


Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 24, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
This reads like an extended Zippy the Pinhead comic
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 10:54:48 AM
"You must sign in to read past the first answer" aka "You must give us access to your social media account >:)".
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 24, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
Or, y'know, just create an alt account you use to sign up for crap like this
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Nah. I really can't be bothered. If they want to pull bull@%&# like that their site isn't worth using.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 24, 2014, 11:01:49 AM
Most sites lack a moderation system for commenting, so I'd rather have that extra step that deters most trolls (due to laziness)
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 11:08:16 AM
Yeah, I also refrain from commenting on most anything, except a few random youtube videos that are from people that have decently behaved audiences. Internet commenting is a thing I haven't found worth it in a very long time. Mostly trolls. I just avoid reading most of it. so really not worth bothering. They can't have my main social media accounts, and setting up a dummy account is not worth it ;)
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 24, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
I'd agree with you on things like Click-Bait articles

Commenting on Forums, creator content, etc is big part of my daily life. Feedback is so critical in a lot of things as well as reaching out to people

Getting into Kirk v Picard type pissing contests... well YMMV, some people really get off on arguing stupid stuff online, it's easier to just avoid that kind of toxic content.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 11:51:05 AM
I'll agree you care about some feedback as a content creator. But for me, internet commenting is usually not worth it. I tend to get riled up by idiots, so I skip it all-together.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 24, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 24, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Nah. I really can't be bothered. If they want to pull bull@%&# like that their site isn't worth using.
Quote from: Tom on September 24, 2014, 11:08:16 AM
Yeah, I also refrain from commenting on most anything, except a few random youtube videos that are from people that have decently behaved audiences. Internet commenting is a thing I haven't found worth it in a very long time. Mostly trolls. I just avoid reading most of it. so really not worth bothering. They can't have my main social media accounts, and setting up a dummy account is not worth it ;)


tbh I signed up with VERY minimal info, just an email address that I am willing to get a daily "digest"* ... and in the months that have followed I have gotten no well-intentioned spam, and there is no connection to any of my "social media" info, and here's why I shared this -- Quora is by far the most intelligent, thought-provoking, and flame-war-resistant community I have ever found on the internet. It's the place that got me thinking about really taking control of my developer career (i.e. where I learned about the Boot Camps etc.) and I have also learned quite a bit about culture and history of various nations and peoples (because I already do that kind of self-directed learning on Wikipedia, but on Quora it's more personal and way more fascinating.)


*On Quora all I do is lurk, never replying to comments or offering answers, but the daily email digest can be easily and quickly tweaked to include only subjects/topics that you find of great interest ... which I have done long ago and now look forward to the unpredictable direction the occasional Question sometimes takes me, along with adding to my knowledge bank of areas I desire. Definitely not a "click bait" type of waste of space.


PS: Sorry folks, I did not realize that Quora limits you to viewing just 1 unless you are "signed up". But to me it's just like the IMDB forums, quickly creating an account with minimal info opened the door to a vibrant community of vocal folks (but like I said Quora -- vs IMDB and others like it -- is supremely awesome at excluding trolls, whether by specific moderation or just by the nature of its intelligence-centered content I do not know which it is). Think of it like text-article-based TED talks but more focused and without a lot of shallow fluff.


Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 04:29:22 PM
It only gave me the option to sign up with G+ and Facebook. thanks but no :P
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 24, 2014, 04:30:28 PM
So you actually have real content in your Google Plus account? :shocked: cuz I definitely don't, I guess I ended up using that because I knew it was essentially a fake account :)
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
It's still tied to my google data. Not letting anything touch that.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 24, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 24, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
It's still tied to my google data. Not letting anything touch that.

Except for all the sites you search for, advertisers who host content there, etc, etc

;) pokin' the bear
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 24, 2014, 08:03:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on September 24, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Tom on September 24, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
It's still tied to my google data. Not letting anything touch that.

Except for all the sites you search for, advertisers who host content there, etc, etc

;) pokin' the bear
At least i have some control over accepting some random site to directly access my accounts :P
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Darren Dirt on September 25, 2014, 11:53:18 AM
 imo the near-zero risk of my personal data being exploited etc. is worth the regular discovery of intelligent discussion and information sharing such as this simple explanation of inflation... ( as per the norm on Quora, free of conspiracy theories and left vs right blaming/BS.
http://www.quora.com/Why-does-inflation-exist-When-it-is-said-that-the-government-prints-too-much-money-what-does-it-mean/answer/Dave-Hines

Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 25, 2014, 12:03:13 PM
I honestly don't think most internet commenting is worth getting worked up over, and comments from random internet people with no background isn't going to help win me over :P
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 25, 2014, 01:06:43 PM
Except, in this case, reading the comments is quite hilarious + interesting (hilariteresting?)

Not everything is hostile / toxic, but I get where you're coming from
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 25, 2014, 01:49:11 PM
Its easier for me to just ignore easy to ignore stuff ;) Even if it isnt toxic, I could spend the time better.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Mr. Analog on September 25, 2014, 02:00:50 PM
Good!

I think a lot of people are learning that lesson lately (that was a lot of "L"s)

Some people find it amazing that flamewars/trolling has become so prevalent that marketing agencies actually use it as an advertising tactic (i.e. Emma Watson v 4Chan) and yet here we are
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 25, 2014, 02:07:33 PM
I learned that a while back when I found myself getting too worked up over dumb forum arguments. Noone is going to actually be convinced (except me, I try to actually accept truth when I see it), so its incredibly pointless. And places with comments like youtube's is even more pointless.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Thorin on September 25, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
Hmm, I managed to sign up for Quora by clicking the "Sign up with Email" link and then using a mailinator address.  HA HA HA.  At that point, you might as well just let people read the site without logging in.
Title: Re: Disconnecting from the violinist
Post by: Tom on September 25, 2014, 04:08:20 PM
Ah, I saw no such link. Didn't look very hard, but still didn't want to sign up ;)