http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/iphone-galaxy-s5-nexus-5-and-fire-phone-fall-like-dominoes-at-pwn2own/
And only the Windows Phone survives a full hijacking...
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/windows-phone-security-sandbox-survives-pwn2own-unscathed/
Score a win finally for Windows Phone :P... I love mine :D
I saw this earlier today, physical security is nee impossible, so take with grain of salt
It's like man, somebody can steal your car if they're sitting in it with the keys!
So... Is that security through obscurity? Not enough people have a Windows phone, so not enough people are trying to hack it? :D
lol
Not interested yet.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213489/microsoft-leaves-windows-users-in-the-cold
Quote from: Lazybones on November 13, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
Not interested yet.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213489/microsoft-leaves-windows-users-in-the-cold
Sad, but not unexpected
The sheer dominance of Android and iOS pretty much gives developers no incentives to build for their own devices first
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 13, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp
Holy Blap! I didn't realize Android was so high, especially compared to iOS! Mind you, my kids go to school with a lot of affluent kids, many of whom get the more expensive iPhones handed to them new every year, so maybe that's why I think I see so many iPhones around.
Remember there is a spectrum of Android OSs across a huge variety of devices, but yeah, it's big
Android stats are strange... Android replaced nearly all of the feature phone market with low end smart phones.... Looking at browser usage stats for websites the number of ACTIVE iOS device tends to be higher than Android.. If you are using web-browsing as a metric to measure smartphone market and use.
While I can't say Windows Phone beats out iOS or Android much in marketplace, and I know I am not going to convinence anyone to switch, I can tell you this: IMO my Lumia 1020 is by far the fastest and most responsive phone out of all the iOS and Android phones I've used to date (and that includes a Nexus 4 & 5, iPhone 4/5/6, Samsung S4 & S5 and Blackberry Z10, Q10, Bold and Curve in recent years). When you want an app, camera, or feature, it activates and launches in no time flat. And the 41mp camera is a nice addition.
So for me its the right phone for me. Pick yours for your needs. I'm happy with mine and I hope you are happy with yours.
Quote from: Thorin on November 13, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
So... Is that security through obscurity? Not enough people have a Windows phone, so not enough people are trying to hack it? :D
That's my guess. The market is so small, and I dobut MS provides much in bug bounties to make people interested.
Quote from: Tom on November 14, 2014, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Thorin on November 13, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
So... Is that security through obscurity? Not enough people have a Windows phone, so not enough people are trying to hack it? :D
That's my guess. The market is so small, and I dobut MS provides much in bug bounties to make people interested.
I think the foot print might be growing though... I know Dell as a company has switched all employees to Windows Phones (at least North America wide), and TechEd sure did have a lot more people using them this year than last. Now all M$ needs to do is buy BB from RIM and corner the Enterprise Secured market for phones! ;)
Quote from: Melbosa on November 14, 2014, 12:21:26 AM
Quote from: Tom on November 14, 2014, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Thorin on November 13, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
So... Is that security through obscurity? Not enough people have a Windows phone, so not enough people are trying to hack it? :D
That's my guess. The market is so small, and I dobut MS provides much in bug bounties to make people interested.
I think the foot print might be growing though... I know Dell as a company has switched all employees to Windows Phones (at least North America wide), and TechEd sure did have a lot more people using them this year than last. Now all M$ needs to do is buy BB from RIM and corner the Enterprise Secured market for phones! ;)
From Q2 2013 to Q2 2014 Windows Phone OS shrank from 3.4% to 2.5%
Quote from: Melbosa on November 14, 2014, 12:21:26 AM
I think the foot print might be growing though... I know Dell as a company has switched all employees to Windows Phones (at least North America wide), and TechEd sure did have a lot more people using them this year than last. Now all M$ needs to do is buy BB from RIM and corner the Enterprise Secured market for phones! ;)
imo this is the only way M$ knows how to do business -- get Big Names to adopt their product on a massive scale, usually having all of its employees forced to use it and not any competitor products, use marketing to promote the idea that M$ is the Leader or Game Changer or whatever in that product industry, convince the non-researching masses to do the easy/lazy thing and follow suit jumping on the M$ bandwagon, then stop evolving your products much but force consumers to buy a new version regularly even though there's no real reason. Until years later even the common folks recognize they've been had (and move on to a better and/or cheaper and/or more flexible alternative).
But hey, that has grown the company to a huge size in just a few decades, and as a result a bunch of people are getting malaria cures and whatnot so it's not all bad...
Apple tries the same tactics, except that instead of getting into big institutions where adults are forced to use their software like Microsoft does, Apple gets into all the primary education institutions and gets the kids hooked before they're even old enough to know how to research their options.
As for evolving their products, I'd say one of the main complaints about Microsoft Office 2007 and Windows 8 were how they completely changed the interface. Isn't that the definition of software evolution? A new version being completely different from an old version?
LOL sorry guys; I should have not mentioned it... I forgot not a lot of love for the M$ these days here. I'll just step back into my M$ shadow back here in the corner not bothering anyone anymore :P :D.
I was just stating facts about market share I found on the site. The only reason I care is for dev purposes
And I was just pointing out to Darren that just as he's hating on MS for what it's doing, Apple does the same except it involves children.
That's a weird sentence.
Anyway, the reason I stay away from Windows phones is because my experience over the last fifteen years has not shown that Microsoft tries to make it's OSes as soft on the batteries as possible. Although I could be wrong since I haven't tried it. I'm happy for you that you're enjoying your Windows phone.
As far as dev, to make money on apps you're best off to chase iOS as those users are the most likely to pay for apps.
Our one windows phone user just switch to an iPhone 6 so I have little Experience with them in the wild.
I have heard the interface speed and camera mentioned by the few users I have encountered. However I don't fined those a problem on iOS even when compared side by side.
Personally I have a fair number of purchased iOS apps now so switching to anything else will have a cost to replace those apps. I also find a number of interesting apps on iOS are more mature than ones I have looked at on android for example.
I think Microsoft could take back some market share but they would have to release something that made some headlines.
One reason I'm not that interested in an ms device is as of late they haven't been known for their long term support. Also lock-in. But lock in is a thing in all of the phone platforms so meh.
You get lock-in with each of the big 3
Really you're just choosing which walls you want for your garden
Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 17, 2014, 08:26:07 AM
You get lock-in with each of the big 3
Really you're just choosing which walls you want for your garden
Pretty much, though you do have the option of 3rd party OSs on android devices. Heck, my phone CAME with Cyanogen. :o