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Title: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 11, 2015, 03:02:54 PM
I don't know what it is lately but man, I feel like I'm about 2 minutes from falling asleep at any moment. At lunch I went for a 15 min nap (set my phone and everything) well I had a quick snooze but then instead of getting up fell asleep for another 45 minutes (oops!)

UGH

I don't normally go for coffee in the afternoon but today I think I need it
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on June 11, 2015, 03:19:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 11, 2015, 03:02:54 PM
I don't know what it is lately but man, I feel like I'm about 2 minutes from falling asleep at any moment. At lunch I went for a 15 min nap (set my phone and everything) well I had a quick snooze but then instead of getting up fell asleep for another 45 minutes (oops!)

UGH

I don't normally go for coffee in the afternoon but today I think I need it
In my case, I was awake past 5am, then up at 8am (with several interruptions from people walking through my room to do their hair), then came to the office to meet face-to-face with the boss but he's sick so it was wasted gas and parking fees, then had chicken for lunch from Chicken For Lunch.

Now I'm _really_ groggy.

I think part of it might be the damn noisy birds in the morning, and part might be the bright daystar light until late in the evening.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 11, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
I went to sleep right after work yesterday and woke up around 3 AM today, I couldn't really get back to sleep so I watched a bunch of cartoons I had queued up, anyway I made pancakes at 5 AM (SO GOOD) and I had planned to come into the office today because I thought it would help get me back into a normal cycle (and also I was up super early and ready to roll) but then I made the mistake of logging into my workstation FIRST and ended up getting busy and there just wasn't enough time for me to haul ass downtown (which is a shame dammit, I would have loved to hit some CFL today!)

Anyway, coffee is working it's magic, I just had a semi-lucid conversation with one of my team members who is also sick, which is now 1 on vacation for a month, 2 sick and 1 sick manager (same as yours)

Also I don't know if it was just because it was 3 AM or what but this new show "Star vs the Forces of Evil" made me really want to play some D&D (I'm not saying that I want to summon a powerful narwhal beam but... it should be a thing)
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on June 11, 2015, 05:18:17 PM
I totally know what you mean. Much of the time I spend all day fighting narcolepsy. Instead of just being tired, its more like I pass out. I suspect it has partially to do with diet (eating /lots/ of protine helps a fair bit), exercise (exercise helps a little), and medical issues (EDS causes extreme exhaustion, anxiety causes exhaustion, etc).
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on June 12, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
I went to bed at 9:30pm last night, in a zombie state.  I remember waking up at 4:50am, stayed in bed, and finally got up after 8:30am.  I'm feeling a lot better today.

Tom, sounds like you need to adopt the Mexican tradition of siestas...  You know, since you're gonna fall asleep anyway, might as well have a nap.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 12, 2015, 10:35:01 AM
I forced myself to stay up last night, I did some artwork and then went to bed, I brewed up some coffee in the afternoon so I'm sure that helped. I slept pretty well last night, though I woke up a bit early. I had a bad panic attack while getting cleaned up this morning, but now I'm so chill it's not even funny, the PLAN was to go into the office today but whatever

In just a few hours I've gone from barely functional to being my normal self, the mind is a strange thing.

Anyway I'm gonna be playing some MINECRAFT tonight and maybe try and finish off GTA V (turns out I'm not all that far off the story mode ending)
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on June 12, 2015, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: Thorin on June 12, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
I went to bed at 9:30pm last night, in a zombie state.  I remember waking up at 4:50am, stayed in bed, and finally got up after 8:30am.  I'm feeling a lot better today.

Tom, sounds like you need to adopt the Mexican tradition of siestas...  You know, since you're gonna fall asleep anyway, might as well have a nap.
Sometimes I do. but that generally leads to shifting sleep schedules. I have little self control when it comes to getting up. lol.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 12, 2015, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 12, 2015, 10:20:05 AM
Tom, sounds like you need to adopt the Mexican tradition of siestas...  You know, since you're gonna fall asleep anyway, might as well have a nap.



Set a LOUD timer for 20 minutes from when you shut your eyes, giving yourself maybe 5 minutes to completely conk out, that should be very helpful. Apparently for most people that can be a real energy boost, but also once you hit the 25+ minute mark you're likely to sink into DEEP sleep that if woken up in the middle of creates the super-groggy crappy feeling for hours. Hence the 15-20 minutes.

I used to do this, taking a nap in my car during lunch, a couple years ago, and it did wonders for getting through days when I was getting all narcoleptic by 2pm (on a serious caffeine high-and-low cycle at the time).


Also being physically active can jolt you out of your grogginess instead of a nap -- on that note I keep meaning to use 7 minutes in my lunchtime (since now I have a door that can close!) for the "7 minute workout", I have an app (http://www.google.com/search?q=7%20minute%20workout%20android%20app) and everything! #NoExcuses #ReminderToSelf


Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 12, 2015, 01:53:31 PM
Physical activity works for me the best.

Sadly yesterday I went for a 15 minute nap at lunch, woke up to my alarm and stayed put (and slept for another 45 minutes)

That's when I brewed the coffee haha
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on June 12, 2015, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 12, 2015, 10:35:01 AM
Anyway I'm gonna be playing some MINECRAFT tonight and maybe try and finish off GTA V (turns out I'm not all that far off the story mode ending)

What time you planning to be on the MC server?
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 12, 2015, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 12, 2015, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on June 12, 2015, 10:35:01 AM
Anyway I'm gonna be playing some MINECRAFT tonight and maybe try and finish off GTA V (turns out I'm not all that far off the story mode ending)

What time you planning to be on the MC server?

Not sure, earlier than later probably
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on June 12, 2015, 04:21:01 PM
I had 6 hours of sleep last night, so I'm rather tired already. lol. Putting the last finishing touches on the immigration application, and I'll be sending it off, possibly today :o Just waiting for a letter from my sister... So far the paperwork about an inch thick. lol
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 14, 2015, 06:40:37 PM
http://www.quora.com/How-can-I-stay-fit-without-going-to-a-gym/answer/Kent-Fung

Who needs a gym!?

Buncha tips for intense but brief workouts at home... no equipment needed.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on June 14, 2015, 08:45:49 PM
I've been up late at night unable to sleep because I can't stop the thoughts in my head.  Mostly to do with how my oldest child has been acting the last several months.  This is one part of being a parent that absolutely sucks.

It'll probably be another restless night tossing and turning - he decided recently to move out, but he didn't tell us, so he was slowly moving stuff out when we weren't home.  We figured it out today, so I fast-tracked his move.  And I explained what a @%&#ty thing it is to sneak move out, instead of being forthright about it.

The real slap in the face is that he's willing to pay his girlfriend's mom $600 a month for a single room (bathroom and kitchen are shared, it's not a separate apartment), and that he considers that better than living at home for free.  And I'm sure he's gonna have to do more cleaning there than here.

And there's always something to laugh about.  In this case, he claims this is better because now he's in a proper landlord-tenant situation.  But think about it, it's his girlfriend's mom and he's only renting a space (so no private entrance, kitchen, bathroom, or even hallway - they'd see each other all the time).  What happens if he breaks up with his girlfriend, especially if it's another nasty break-up?  He'd be out on his ass toot-sweet.  Hmm, I wonder if they've even signed a rental agreement.  I doubt it, he's not one for doing paperwork.

Less than two weeks ago, he borrowed money for car repairs from me.  I made sure to make up an agreement and have both of us sign it on how it will get paid back.  He says he'll pay it back, but I'm kinda good with numbers and I doubt he'll have the cash.  I'm basing my budget over the summer on him not paying it, if he does, I'll have beer money for camping.

Anyway, thanks for reading my venting (if you got this far).  Maybe writing it down will help get it out of mind.  Or maybe I'll be online at 3:30am checking to see if there are any new posts from Tom.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on June 14, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
LOL! Hey, my sleep schedule isn't always backwards :P
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on June 14, 2015, 09:52:23 PM
Man, Thorin, that really sucks :(

Reading what you have on your mind makes ME mad, it's @%&# like that that is unnecessary and can really create rifts between people (for years) and for what? Ugh, it hurts my heart to think about it. If you ever want to chat give me a call

My sleep is all over the place again, on Friday we had multiple power failures, the worst was at about 3 AM or so when the fire alarm went off. Our alarms have sound AND extremely bright flashing lights, I was sort of half asleep at that point, not what I needed.

On Saturday I had to go out to do some shopping, when I came home though I put on some Breaking Bad and opened a bottle of wine... I was in and out of sleep for hours, I finally shut the TV off around 4 AM and went to bed, but I woke up at 7 or so. Today I've been a zombie.

This week is gonna be rough I think
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 15, 2015, 01:32:09 AM
T-bone, that sucks but reality is he is an adult and is gonna make his mistakes. Hope you don't take on more than your legit burden with this sitch, I am sure u are a bit heart broken but his terrible choices for action and/or communication are just that: his. Not a reflection of you or your parenting (if either of those are partly what is stressing you out here).

Kids don't know how good they got it, nor how smart and giving and ever-loving their parents are... until they turn 25 or 30 or so. (Insert Mark Twain quote)

Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on June 15, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
Tom: sometimes I wonder if you're just on a 25 hour day and that's why you slowly get out of sync with the rest of the world...

Mr. Analog: that sucks to hear your sleep is messed up like that. Going to bed at 4am and waking up at 7am? Ugh. I've had to do that before and it sucks, not something I'd do by choice, though. At least you are still able to get your shopping done.

Darren: turns out you were the one late at night posting instead of Tom :) And yeah, I know I can't make his decisions for him and that he needs to make his mistakes. But it still keeps me up at night tossing and turning because I can't stop thinking about how he treats his immediate family. He's made it very clear through his actions over the last couple of months that he'd rather spend time anywhere else than with his parents, sisters, or brother. And that's hurt all of us.

Anyway, the general topic of this thread is lack of sleep and what's stopping us from attaining proper rest. Maybe in a couple of weeks we'll have a thread about how great our sleeps were for the past couple of nights.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on June 15, 2015, 11:04:03 AM
Quote from: Thorin on June 15, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
Tom: sometimes I wonder if you're just on a 25 hour day and that's why you slowly get out of sync with the rest of the world...
Sometimes I wonder that too. But I imagine anxiety has a lot to do with it. Often i just can't calm down enough to fall asleep.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Darren Dirt on June 15, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: Thorin on June 15, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
...how he treats his immediate family. He's made it very clear through his actions over the last couple of months that he'd rather spend time anywhere else than with his parents, sisters, or brother. And that's hurt all of us.

Yeah well that's the point, he's a teenager who maybe is finally acting like one... Some of us got a late start on our "treat everyone who's there for us like @%&# now that we've experiencing an all-day infatuation-on..." I mean I was 18 and 19 when I totally turned my back on everyone for a chick. Didn't even give 2 thoughts about my friends or brother or aunts (who were both very much there for me as and right after my mom died), I just dropped off the radar and looking back I didn't even weigh the pros/cons, I just dove headlong. So it's sad, frustrating, heartbreaking... but not surprising, sorry man.

PS: https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/comments/305e15/when_i_was_a_boy_of_14_my_father_was_so_ignorant/ *
"When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around.
But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."
^ adjust numbers as appropriate for your sitch. ;)  :(


*Perhaps in a year or five, he'll be posting in that reddit too. (e.g. NeverWantedABlonde: `Sent to my dad. Can confirm I cried.` )

( ignoring, of course, that the words did not come from Mr. Clemens in reality (http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/10/10/twain-father) ... but hey it's still a great quote with some deep universal truth to it! -- oops, did not realize until today it was a falsely attributed quote; I guess this Twain quote applies (http://thinkexist.com/quotation/it_ain-t_what_you_don-t_know_that_gets_you_into/215214.html) ;) doh! (http://awesome@%&#.ninja/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/abraham-lincoln-quote-internet-hoax-fake.jpg) )




Quote from: Thorin on June 15, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
Anyway, the general topic of this thread is lack of sleep and what's stopping us from attaining proper rest. Maybe in a couple of weeks we'll have a thread about how great our sleeps were for the past couple of nights.
Hey I fell asleep on my phone so it was dead this morning so I slept through my alarm and woke up at 8:35am naturally ... so does that count? Musta been a "great sleep" cuz first time in maybe 2 weeks that I didn't naturally wake up 7ish or earlier!  :P
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on June 16, 2015, 12:49:34 AM
Ugh, another late night.

I did accomplish one thing this evening - my younger son has been getting Pokemon cards for a couple of years note but had no idea how to play. So this evening we learned together how to play Pokemon. It helps that it's similar to MtG.

Tomorrow I'm going to try and make a starter deck for him where the cards kinda work together. Tonight it was all random, and we started with only fifteen cards and one Pokemon, then went to three, then went to five. We still have to learn the prize cards and how to evolve Pokemons.

And yes, he has a Pikachu.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on June 16, 2015, 02:41:20 AM
I'm up. Woo.

So I'm pretty sure my "tiredness" is directly related to my blood pressure. When my dystolic goes down to the low 60s I end up fighting to stay conscious... Today I slept good. 7.5 hours or so. Felt decent after I got up. Then started getting foggy around 11am. I figured some exercise could help but it just made it worse. Went for a 90min nap, felt a bit better but not a ton. Ended up fighting the tired all night and now I'm still up cause I seem to wake up after midnight especially if I'm laying down. Go figure.

Hopefully I'll fall asleep soon...
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on July 22, 2015, 12:42:04 PM
Sleepy today holy cow

and I just had CFL

we need an office couch
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Thorin on July 23, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
I'm out camping and having a great time of it, but I am still a little jealous that you got CFL...

Where would you put the couch?
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on July 23, 2015, 10:08:32 AM
Since noone shows up, just replace a couple desks if there isnt room along some wall somewhere.
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on July 23, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
Quote from: Thorin on July 23, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
I'm out camping and having a great time of it, but I am still a little jealous that you got CFL...

Where would you put the couch?

At my desk obviously! haha

Quote from: Tom on July 23, 2015, 10:08:32 AM
Since noone shows up, just replace a couple desks if there isnt room along some wall somewhere.

Well at least two co-workers are there in the afternoon so it would get awkward
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on July 23, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
If there is at least one actual closed office, it could be converted into a silent/quite space!
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Mr. Analog on July 23, 2015, 10:44:28 AM
Quote from: Tom on July 23, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
If there is at least one actual closed office, it could be converted into a silent/quite space!

That would be nice but we don't have the room unfortunately
Title: Re: Sleepy as Hell
Post by: Tom on July 23, 2015, 11:13:04 AM
:(