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General => Lobby => Topic started by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 02:27:20 PM

Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 02:27:20 PM
Well its getting close to that time for a site revamp.  For everyone who was going to provide content, lets get our rears-in-gear so to speak.  Construction site up and waiting :P



I have some ideas of what I am going to do with the main site once we get a new layout and look.  Wee I can't wait to see what you guys have been working on.



http://www.righteouswrath.com <-- Remember to refresh the page if you still see the old site.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 11, 2005, 03:02:24 PM
I want a simple layout controlled entirely by CSS (with maybe an optional "set your own CSS for the site" option). If you want us to provide content give us a "blog" style interface for doing so, I would love to write articles if it's easy to update / edit / review.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 11, 2005, 03:04:47 PM
Incedentally, the site should pass W3C HTML and CSS validation, like this site (http://vger.homeip.net/coh/). IE be damned!
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: "Mr. Analog"I want a simple layout controlled entirely by CSS (with maybe an optional "set your own CSS for the site" option). If you want us to provide content give us a "blog" style interface for doing so, I would love to write articles if it's easy to update / edit / review.



Nice suggestions.  I try and adhere to HTML/CSS standards on all websites I design and build (for all browsers).  And my ideas for dynamic content were somewhere around the blog concept, except was going to use the forums to do so.  Was thinking an article section with User Group subscription, and then Moderated post system (which I think this forum software can do - you post, we approve, and becomes a locked post) and then it would show up in the Article section of the main website.



As for multiple CSS, will have to wait and see.  Will start with one, similar to the default skin of the forums (but not exactly as we want to give the author his credit and copy rights).  Perhaps colors similar, and nice simple design.  Shae is working on something for me, so we will see what she comes up with :D.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Shayne on October 11, 2005, 03:52:39 PM
we have a front page?!?!?!!?!!?!?!  *wow*



Umm, since we have a front page, i suggest it be super heavy on keywords and linking to stuff throughout the forum.



Screw HTML/CSS, do it all in XML and XSLT.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: "Shayne"Screw HTML/CSS, do it all in XML and XSLT.



Sorry my knowledge of the above is limited and since I have to support the site and maintain it, I can't go this route yet.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 11, 2005, 04:12:17 PM
Ok, XHTML and CSS!
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: "Mr. Analog"Ok, XHTML and CSS!



XHTML is still new to me as well, so I have to stick to what I know for now.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 11, 2005, 06:19:17 PM
It's just well formed HTML, you can run it through the validator at W3C if you have the right encoding set.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 07:01:11 PM
uses things like /> on image tags though right?
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Thorin on October 11, 2005, 08:26:14 PM
In XHTML you must conform to XML standards.  For XHTML, this basically means the following



- XHTML elements must be properly nested

- XHTML documents must be well-formed

- Tag names must be in lowercase

- All XHTML elements must be closed

- Attribute names must be in lower case

- Attribute values must be quoted

- Attribute minimization is forbidden

- The id attribute replaces the name attribute

- The XHTML DTD defines mandatory elements



I've found w3schools (http://www.w3schools.com/xhtml/default.asp)' site to be an excellent introduction.  Give it a read, you'll know the basics (enough to be able to make an average site) in 15 minutes or so.[/list]
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 11, 2005, 09:03:45 PM
Even the lowly break looks like this:

<br />
As it should ;)
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Shayne on October 11, 2005, 09:36:58 PM
Dreamweaver can be set to use XHTML.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Melbosa on October 11, 2005, 09:37:51 PM
hehe don't use Dreamweaver.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Shayne on October 12, 2005, 07:05:20 AM
Quote from: "Melbosa"hehe don't use Dreamweaver.

Pounding a nail in with a screwdriver makes no sence.  Right tool for the right job.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 12, 2005, 07:55:27 AM
LOL, they can pry notepad from my cold, dead hand...
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Thorin on October 12, 2005, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: "Shayne"Pounding a nail in with a screwdriver makes no sence.  Right tool for the right job.

You clearly don't have kids who "borrow" your tools.  It was either the screwdriver or my bare hand...
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 12, 2005, 09:04:57 AM
Bandsaw Barbie was never so much fun!
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Shayne on October 12, 2005, 09:23:52 AM
Its what my father has always told me, and it makes sense, as good as notepad or VS.NET or Eclipse might be for writing HTML, Dreamweaver is just light years ahead.



Version 8 is simply amazing.
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 12, 2005, 09:33:42 AM
Visual Studio is probably the worst at formatting markup, even it's own ASP.NET it manages to bungle from time to time.



On the Garey Busey scale of ugly the Visual Studio (.NET or otherwise) code formatter / markup parser rates 10+



(http://vger.homeip.net/images/gbs1.jpg)
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 12, 2005, 10:26:54 AM
So that would be what, a 6 on the Nick Nolte (http://images.google.com/images?q=nick+nolte) scale? ;)
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 12, 2005, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: "Darren Dirt"So that would be what, a 6 on the Nick Nolte scale? ;)
ROFLMAO
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Tonnica on October 12, 2005, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: "Darren Dirt"So that would be what, a 6 on the Nick Nolte scale? ;)



Good lord! And I thought I was staring into the true face of insanity earlier today. I was wrong, it's really Nick Nolte!
Title: Pressure is on...
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 12, 2005, 12:32:43 PM
Ah, yes, my Personal Favo on the Google Images results page.



"Nick Nolte, Philosopher" <-- Farkin' PRICELESS!