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Title: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Shayne on November 23, 2006, 06:21:52 PM
I gotta say....i just don't know.  I got a heck of a lot of beefs with our system (the first being that it would seem most people vote based upon their location as opposed to the party's actual platform).

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1543571.ece
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Tom on November 23, 2006, 06:40:37 PM
Canada isn't technically a Democracy. Neither is the US for that matter. ;)
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Mr. Analog on November 24, 2006, 01:21:51 AM
Quote from: Tom on November 23, 2006, 06:40:37 PM
Canada isn't technically a Democracy. Neither is the US for that matter. ;)

WRONG! Canada is a Parliamentary Democracy, if you had to pass a test to become a citizen you'd fail.
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Adams on November 24, 2006, 08:31:29 AM
Well, Technically Tom was right... it is not just a democracy but a Parliamentary Democracy.

So ergo both of you can be right. :P
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Thorin on November 24, 2006, 11:25:56 AM
What I find interesting is that Canada is listed as both a Constitutional Monarchy yet at the same time a Parliamentary Democracy.  How can we consider ourselves a democracy (meaning rule by the people) when all of the laws we want to pass must be approved by the Queen or her rightful representative?  Yes, the Queen or her representative commonly agrees with and allows most laws to be passed, but there *have* been a couple of instances in the past ten years where the Governor General refused for a while to allow a bill to become a law and there was nothing our government could legally do to force him.
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Mr. Analog on November 24, 2006, 11:41:02 AM
I think every democracy in the world today has somebody that features as an executive veto. I can't think of one that doesn't.
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Thorin on November 24, 2006, 11:42:51 AM
Yes, but in some cases the persons who have a veto are elected themselves.  Whereas Her Majesty The Queen is not.
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Mr. Analog on November 24, 2006, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: Thorin on November 24, 2006, 11:42:51 AM
Yes, but in some cases the persons who have a veto are elected themselves.  Whereas Her Majesty The Queen is not.

Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!
Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Darren Dirt on November 30, 2006, 09:42:35 PM
Sorta-on-topic: neat series of video shorts on Youtube: "F'N Democracy" ;D

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=mnoelio

Reminds me of the style of the Colbert Report, the Daily Show, etc... but suprisingly how perfeshinally dun it iz.

e.g. "Episode 2 Part 1"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Sn_jaoMkQ

Title: Re: Canada the 9th best Democracy?!?
Post by: Darren Dirt on December 04, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
"In a democracy, government officials are thus invested with powers which the people who empowered them are not allowed to exercise."
- Michael van Notten, "From Nation-State to Stateless Nation: The Somali Experience (http://www.somaliawatch.org/archivenov05/051216601.htm)", section "Defects Of Democracy"