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General => Tech Chat => Topic started by: Tom on May 03, 2007, 03:26:35 PM

Title: I love hardware!
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2007, 03:26:35 PM
You'll never guess. But that brand new 320GB Seagate I just got as a replacement for the brand new one I get last week, just died!

I think now its the motherboard, or the PSU. Brand new motherboard, so it might be the psu. Guh.
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Thorin on May 03, 2007, 03:37:16 PM
Have you done a thorough investigation into how hot the inside of your case is?  Because heat kills hard drives (http://www.dtidata.com/resourcecenter/2007/01/27/hard-drive-failure-heat/).
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Lazybones on May 03, 2007, 03:38:40 PM
You seem to have the touch of death for hard drives man.
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2007, 03:40:45 PM
QuoteHave you done a thorough investigation into how hot the inside of your case is?  Because heat kills hard drives.

Yeah. Thats what I thought it might have been the last time around, but now I have one of the loudest fans know to man blowing air over all the harddrives, and they barely even feel warm.

Also, google's report said that cold was a bigger problem than hot was. (especially if it goes from cold to warm to cold to warm..)

QuoteYou seem to have the touch of death for hard drives man.
Don't I know it. But this time I'm pretty sure the hardware is fine. All thats left is a bad batch of harddrives.
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Cova on May 03, 2007, 03:58:07 PM
Well - computer parts do typically die early or last a very long time, depending on whether the failure is caused by a defect in production or just wear.  Sounds like you found a defective one this time - probably something slightly out of spec that passed initial testing but didn't last much longer.
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2007, 04:01:39 PM
Yeah. Though having two fail, in as many weeks, makes me wonder.. But then again, if it was the motherboard, or the PSU, other parts would have gone bad as well I'd think. 2 in two weeks.
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Mags on May 03, 2007, 04:04:15 PM
Had a simular problem with some WD drives I got from Best computers. Turned out according to WD that Best dropped the box from a very HIGH hight and damaged the whole case of them, yet kept selling them.
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2007, 04:11:49 PM
I'm going to get all angsty for a moment ;)

<Angst>But Why ME?????@@@!@!!@!@!!@</Angst>

Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Mr. Analog on May 03, 2007, 04:28:05 PM
You're the lucky one! :)
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2007, 04:35:20 PM
I'll sell you my luck for $50,000! ;)
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Mr. Analog on May 04, 2007, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 03, 2007, 04:35:20 PM
I'll sell you my luck for $50,000! ;)

Darn! I would have but I just spent $50 K on a mere shelter...
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2007, 12:40:08 AM
QuoteDarn! I would have but I just spent $50 K on a mere shelter...
Doh!
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Darren Dirt on May 04, 2007, 07:31:22 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 03, 2007, 04:11:49 PM
I'm going to get all angsty for a moment ;)

<Angst>But Why ME?????@@@!@!!@!@!!@</Angst>



I had 2 IBM "DeathStar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_Deskstar)" drives (yes, they were 75GXP!) almost a decade ago, had them for almost 3 years.

NEITHER of them croaked on me.

So I guess your "luck" is how the STHC* balances itself out? ;)

lol this is funny stuff: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/1826.wss
Quote
These are the first IBM desktop drives to use glass disk platters instead of aluminum. The smoother and more rigid glass disks allow the recording head to read smaller bits of information that are packed more closely together. In addition, glass disks are more stable at higher speeds...

- - -

*STHC=Space-Time-Hardware Continuum
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Mr. Analog on May 04, 2007, 08:38:10 AM
I guess usage might be a factor. I know with the "Deathstars" they were only rated for a few hours a day or some load of crap...
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Darren Dirt on May 04, 2007, 09:08:13 AM
u know me... lazy, kept my PC running 24/7, pretty much only shutting down when rebooting for updates etc.

Just think it was funny I never lost any data with those lemons :o
Title: Re: I love hardware!
Post by: Mags on May 04, 2007, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 04, 2007, 09:08:13 AM
u know me... lazy, kept my PC running 24/7, pretty much only shutting down when rebooting for updates etc.

Just think it was funny I never lost any data with those lemons :o


Had some of those too, course they croaked on me. Having them on 24/7 is what would have saved you though, it was when they went into park that they damaged themselves. They even came out with a firmware update years later (gee thanks IBM you jackholes) that would essentially stop the read arm from ever truly parking as a fix.

Does go with what they taught in the PC Upgrade and repair course (Yes lame course, but very easy credits) that you could extend your mechanical parts in a pc by never shutting it off, but the offshoot was that you reduce the life of the electronics.