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General => Lobby => Video => Topic started by: Darren Dirt on November 19, 2007, 02:34:46 PM

Title: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Darren Dirt on November 19, 2007, 02:34:46 PM
sped-up video capture of some hard-coding HTML tables...

http://www.break.com/index/kid-paints-picture-in-html.html

Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Tom on November 19, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
That's pretty slick, at the end there it doesn't even look like tables. I can only imagine the time it takes a browser to actually render that though...
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Darren Dirt on November 19, 2007, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: Tom on November 19, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
That's pretty slick, at the end there it doesn't even look like tables.

By the looks of things, the artist set the "cellpadding" or "cellspacing" back down to 0, now that the per-pixel modifications were done. 8)
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Mr. Analog on November 19, 2007, 03:05:04 PM
Oh my god that was amazing!
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Melbosa on November 19, 2007, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Tom on November 19, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
I can only imagine the time it takes a browser to actually render that though...
Because it is only BGcolors and HTML tables I would assume it is pretty fast actually.
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Mr. Analog on November 19, 2007, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on November 19, 2007, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Tom on November 19, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
I can only imagine the time it takes a browser to actually render that though...
Because it is only BGcolors and HTML tables I would assume it is pretty fast actually.

Table nesting is THE process killer for IE (and Firefox). Heck, transforming XML on the fly with JavaScript goes faster.
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Melbosa on November 19, 2007, 03:28:42 PM
Hmmm I'd have to see it in a link to tell.  I've done some pretty crazy Table designs in my development and have yet to see a major hit in either browser.  I would be that is a lot more than I have done, so who's to say.
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Darren Dirt on November 19, 2007, 04:43:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 19, 2007, 03:17:27 PM
Table nesting is THE process killer for IE (and Firefox). Heck, transforming XML on the fly with JavaScript goes faster.

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Case In Point: That Amazing Color Selector Tool Built Via Javascript and Tiny Table Cells With All The Colours.
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Lazybones on November 19, 2007, 09:02:29 PM
Doesn't see to be much of a performance problem.. Check this out http://neil.fraser.name/software/img2html/
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Tom on November 19, 2007, 11:41:59 PM
If it was done all as one table, maybe it wasn't so bad, but I've had some fun with VERY nested tables.. Maybe its gotten better since then, I dunno.
Title: Re: geek? artist? nope, BOTH!
Post by: Mr. Analog on November 20, 2007, 12:09:22 AM
It chokes on bigger pictures, that's for sure!
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