early results from the east coast...
http://goo.gl/gQ1H3
You ass :P
Haha, but seriously here are the results (these are collaborative so take with grain of salt):
http://goo.gl/6zh5
(http://dimelorapido.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/2705957915_3203cfefde_o.jpg) ... coming soon: Riding by riding results and news (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/article1983538.ece)
I am not following any of these links due to two reasons:
1. I am guessing there is a rick roll involved
2. It is illegal to publish election results before the polls close in the last time zone.
Quote from: Lazybones on May 02, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
2. It is illegal to publish election results before the polls close in the last time zone.
Last I heard the fine could possibly reach $25,000! That's a money I could spend on a new car!
Quote from: Lazybones on May 02, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
I am not following any of these links due to two reasons:
1. I am guessing there is a rick roll involved
2. It is illegal to publish election results before the polls close in the last time zone.
Really, I can't knock reasoning on logic like that...
Quote from: Lazybones on May 02, 2011, 03:49:32 PM
I am not following any of these links due to two reasons:
1. I am guessing there is a rick roll involved
2. It is illegal to publish election results before the polls close in the last time zone.
just fyi the "seriously" link I gave is @ the globeandmail -- which you can confirm by hovering over it. Right now it is of course empty/blank (due to #2 you mentioned) whereas in a few hours (i.e. when Vancouver polls close) it will have actual "riding by riding" results for those who are into that kind of results-watching-as-it-is-released.
and re. #1 -- I did no such thing, I am innocent! I only initially linked to a non-existent website "http://really-are-you-that-impatient.ca/lol" , as a joke. But Mr. A ... well, I'll let him explain himself ;)
I distrust URL shortening almost completely as it is, especially out side of twitter.
The odd responses from Tom and Mr A and the imbeded image in your reply also all made me think option 1 and just discount it.
Option 2 was posted because it was predicted this election would end up all over Facebook and
Twitter.
but seriously ... coming soon: Riding by riding results and news (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/article1983538.ece) <-- globe + mail
Or just go direct to the live elections Canada site?
http://enr.elections.ca/National_e.aspx
Here's a glaring example of the problem with first-past-the-post elections:
Saskatchewan voted in 13 Conservatives (92.9% of their seats) and 1 Liberal (7.1% of their seats), no NDP. The actual number of votes for each party, though, was Conservatives 56.3%, NDP 32.3%, and Liberals 8.6%. So even though a third of all voters voted for the NDP party, there is no NDP representation in Saskatchewan.
I wish they would address first-past-the-post.
I don't know, I mean it's not perfect but it's better than going to something like an electoral college to try to even out population/party disparity between provinces.
I am quite disappointed with my fellow Edmontonians (and Canada in general I guess) I expected a much higher voter turnout.
Ah well, I'm just happy that the party I supported this election has majority, it will be very interesting to see the NDP as the official opposition. I am also glad that the separatists have a much smaller / less ironic voice in National politics.
Yes, seeing the Bloc Quebecois wilt from national politics is good. However, they have more support than you'd expect after seeing them drop from 49 seats to 4 - they still had some 6% of the popular vote in the country. Which, if we had proportional representation instead of first-past-the-post, would translate into 20 seats.
There are ways to do proportional representation in democracy, but before we looked at something like that, we'd first have to figure out what we'd do with all the minority governments, because over the last 50 years only one election had a party elected with a majority of the popular vote (even though many of these elections gave governments with a majority of seats):
2011 39.60% Conservative
2008 37.65% Conservative
2006 36.27% Conservative
2004 36.73% Liberal
2000 40.85% Liberal
1997 38.46% Liberal
1993 41.24% Liberal
1988 43.02% Progressive Conservative
1984 50.03% Progressive Conservative
1980 44.34% Liberal
1979 35.89% Progressive Conservative
1974 43.15% Liberal
1972 38.42% Liberal
1968 45.37% Liberal
1965 40.18% Liberal
1963 41.52% Liberal
1962 37.22% Progressive Conservative
As a nation, we are rather fractured in our politics. It's not black and white, left and right, Democrat or Republican like in the States, we've got more parties and more choices. I consider this a good thing, as it reduces polarization and increases the requirement to work together. But if we were to implement proportional representation in any way, we would have to first find a civil way for minority governments to continue to exist and run instead of being debased and dissolved by power grabbing maneuvers.