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Title: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Tom on October 05, 2011, 06:07:53 PM
http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 05, 2011, 07:24:21 PM
yup, not surprising, but still sad news.

I hope he had enough time with his family (http://www.iphone4sblog.net/iphone-4s-news/steve-jobs-family-releases-statement-12258/) to help them deal with his impending passing and to say goodbye.


Someone should link to the Joy Of Tech ' thanks Steve' they did a month ago, now it's a tribute to his vision and contributions and world-changing live.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Melbosa on October 06, 2011, 01:23:16 AM
farewell...
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 06, 2011, 06:43:09 AM
He will be missed, that's for sure.

RIP Steve...
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 06, 2011, 08:48:35 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/eternal_flame.gif?#961)
alt text: "There's always the hope that if you sit and watch for long enough, the beachball will vanish and the thing it interrupted will return."



found via one of MANY links here: http://gizmodo.com/steve-jobs/
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 06, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
I wonder how many of these were written by the Big Name People themselves, and not their assistant or similar...
http://gizmodo.com/5847151/reactions-to-steve-jobs-death



http://gawker.com/5847338/steve-jobs-was-not-god
"He did not meaningfully reduce poverty, or make life-saving scientific discoveries, or end wars or heal the sick or befriend the friendless. ... Let's mourn Steve Jobs as we mourn the passing of any other good man -- modestly, privately, and quietly. Those of you whose remembrances have already taken on a quasi-religious tone: seek help."

Well, that's a "think different" perspective on this event.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 06, 2011, 01:06:35 PM
Ol Stevesie was a polarizing figure for sure.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Lazybones on October 06, 2011, 02:55:25 PM
Classy Baptist Church plans to Picket his funeral... Note they posted this on Twitter (previous target) via an iPhone (the tool of the devil apparently)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/06/steve_jobs_funeral_picket/
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Thorin on October 06, 2011, 03:21:27 PM
Not so much a church as a crazy extended family.  But hey, one of these days someone will respond to their outrageousness with gunshots and then they'll consider themselves "martyrs" for their cause.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 06, 2011, 10:11:53 PM
on topic (!)

wow, "Siri" actually looks GOOD:

the promo video has a BLIND person (brilliant!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUU6Pc_wAdU

and it seems to have almost-Watsonesque context understanding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHCjUhfUBc

Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 06:36:15 AM
I kinda feel awkward that they were playing Ray Charles...
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 07, 2011, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 06:36:15 AM
I kinda feel awkward that they were playing Ray Charles...

like he's gonna raise a stink about it?
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on October 07, 2011, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 06:36:15 AM
I kinda feel awkward that they were playing Ray Charles...

like he's gonna raise a stink about it?

Has nothing to do with Ray really, Apple's beating us over the head with the whole blind usability angle, which is crap (as I am doubtful you could go through the setup/configuration without touching the screen at some point).
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 07, 2011, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on October 06, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
http://gawker.com/5847338/steve-jobs-was-not-god

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/opinion/jobs-looked-to-the-future.html
"It would be fascinating to know what Mr. Jobs would make of the outpouring of grief flooding the developed world after his death on Wednesday. While it?s certain he?d be flattered, his hawk-eyed nature might assert itself ... His impatience with fools was legendary, and the amount of hagiography now being ladled onto his life with abandon would undoubtedly set his teeth on edge."


http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1582b.html
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1583.html

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1600.html
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Lazybones on October 07, 2011, 11:02:19 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 09:23:36 AM
Has nothing to do with Ray really, Apple's beating us over the head with the whole blind usability angle, which is crap (as I am doubtful you could go through the setup/configuration without touching the screen at some point).

Actually dating back to 2010 iPhoen has been the most accessible smartphone, and most popular for those vision impaired
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/09/a-blind-users-profound-review-of-the-iphone/63400/

The core system has voice over prompts with a different touch screen mode that lets you scan the screen with your finger and have it read to you, then you need to hold to tap or something where normal mode would be a single tap.

The UI and even 3rd party APIs support this natively, all first party apps and core OS menus should support voice over (speak what is on the screen).

The new siri feature will make natural voice input possible.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Lazybones on October 07, 2011, 11:07:15 AM
App to read money
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/an-iphone-app-helps-the-blind-identify-currency/

App that tells you what color something is
http://kottke.org/10/09/iphone-a-revolutionary-device-for-the-blind

Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 07, 2011, 11:08:46 AM
maybe Steve Jobs *was* a "god" ... to some entities:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/scocca/2011/10/steve_jobs_dead_the_machines_regret_the_bio_expiration_of_apple_.html
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 11:46:36 AM
*swoosh*

There are some features that a blind person could use for sure, they show a bunch of stuff with "regular people" using it (at which point I was like "hey, that's pretty cool I bet that would be handy for...") and then they show a blind person (at which point I was thinking "oh well there ya go") then I realized they were playing a Ray Charles tune ...

There's a point where you realize when something is patronizing, and it's right there.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Lazybones on October 07, 2011, 12:28:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 11:46:36 AM
*swoosh*

There are some features that a blind person could use for sure, they show a bunch of stuff with "regular people" using it (at which point I was like "hey, that's pretty cool I bet that would be handy for...") and then they show a blind person (at which point I was thinking "oh well there ya go") then I realized they were playing a Ray Charles tune ...

There's a point where you realize when something is patronizing, and it's right there.

I suppose, but then again Apple likes to note things with music and he is basically the most known blind singer...

One of Mozilla's Blind from Birth accessibility testers raved about the 3GS and how it guides you to whats on screen and next to your finger etc.
http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/06/22/my-first-experience-using-an-accessible-touch-screen-device/
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on October 07, 2011, 01:15:06 PM
Like I say generally I like Apple's advertising but this one just... I don't know it bothered me
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 07, 2011, 01:23:30 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on October 07, 2011, 12:28:07 PM
I suppose, but then again Apple likes to note things with music and he is basically the most known blind singer...

...hey now...
(http://newyork.diarystar.com/images/stevie-wonder11.jpg) (http://www.google.com/search?q=stevie+wonder) (http://www.superiorpics.com/wenn_album/Andrea_Bocelli_-_Sing_at_Last/andrea_bocelli_001_112006.jpg) (http://www.google.com/search?q=Andrea+Bocelli)
(http://myplay.com/files/imagecache/photo_135_square/files/artist_images/dxc__gx668601.jpg) (http://www.google.com/search?q=Ronnie+Milsap)
:cough:
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Lazybones on October 07, 2011, 08:11:12 PM
I said most, not only.

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Ray+charles+&word2=Stevie+wonder
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 07, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on October 07, 2011, 08:11:12 PM
I said most, not only.

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Ray+charles+&word2=Stevie+wonder

forgot about good 'ol googlefight.
good old not always accurate googlefight http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=bill+gates&word2=steve+jobs





Quote10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope, and Johnny Cash - Now we have no Jobs, No Hope, and No Cash :" (
^ a comment from that time in 2007 when Jobs and Gates were interviewed in 2007 at "D5" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Z7eal4uXI)


Jobs appeared again in 2010 at "D8" -- and was visibly less healthy :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEJB6mHAydI
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on October 20, 2011, 11:04:02 AM
Steve Jobs: An animated life (those wacky Taiwanese animators)
http://twitter.com/#!/NMAtv/status/121753814750605312

Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on November 13, 2011, 03:50:43 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=no+hope+no+cash+no+jobs+please+don't+die+kevin+bacon
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on November 18, 2011, 03:34:24 PM
A Sister's Eulogy for Steve Jobs
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-jobs.html

insanely thought-provoking and greatly touching.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on May 18, 2012, 05:18:44 PM
so the "first draft" of the Aaron Sorkin biopic has been leaked on the fob wide web...
http://www.funnyordie.com/pictures/58a52edd85/the-first-few-pages-of-aaron-sorkin-s-steve-jobs-biopic
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on December 06, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
creepy resemblance is creepy...

(http://starcrush.com/files/2012/12/All-About-Steve-Jobs-Sundance.jpg)

http://starcrush.com/ashton-kutcher-steve-jobs
http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/2012-12-04/ashton-kutcher-is-an-uncanny-ringer-for-steve-jobs-in-first-official-photograph/
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Thorin on December 06, 2012, 01:01:22 PM
I recognize the white books with the rainbow-coloured band on them on the bookshelf in the left picture, but I can't remember what manuals those were for...  Pretty sure those were the Mac manuals, weren't they?
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on December 06, 2012, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: Thorin on December 06, 2012, 01:01:22 PM
I recognize the white books with the rainbow-coloured band on them on the bookshelf in the left picture, but I can't remember what manuals those were for...  Pretty sure those were the Mac manuals, weren't they?


idk.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Thorin on December 06, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
It's an Apple manual of some kind, but I can't tell which one...
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on December 06, 2012, 01:17:08 PM
I had one for Apple Basic that had a similar design, it was coiled not bound though.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Tom on December 07, 2012, 12:16:16 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 06, 2012, 01:17:08 PM
I had one for Apple Basic that had a similar design, it was coiled not bound though.
I'm betting those are hard boxes with coil bound manuals inside. or even binders. Seen a lot of old software packages and manuals come like that.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on December 07, 2012, 07:02:01 AM
I had binders as well, and a hardware manual.

I think we sold everything back in the mid 90s (after I got my PowerBook)
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 20, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on December 06, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
creepy resemblance is creepy...

(http://starcrush.com/files/2012/12/All-About-Steve-Jobs-Sundance.jpg)

http://starcrush.com/ashton-kutcher-steve-jobs
http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/2012-12-04/ashton-kutcher-is-an-uncanny-ringer-for-steve-jobs-in-first-official-photograph/


so here it is March of 2013, and I guess since it's taking forever for a serious Jobs biopic to be released, guess what Funny Or Die decided to do?




































Spoiler


if you guessed "cast Justin Long (aka 'I'm a Mac') in a fake trailerACTUAL feature-length comedy film (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/03/steve-jobs-funny-or-die/)" you're right!


Spoiler


smarty pants.

Spoiler


and no, I'm not talking about this: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/76bca2a346/steve-jobs-action-movie-jason-statham

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Spoiler


apparently "based more on a cursory reading of Steve Jobs? Wikipedia page. We did take some dramatic license with the story, but not as much as Argo"  ;D

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Also starring the fat guy from "Lost". As Woz. Not joking.

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Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on March 20, 2013, 02:36:19 PM
Now there's a quality film idea

The Steve Jobs Story, starring Troy McClure
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 20, 2013, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on March 20, 2013, 02:36:19 PM
Now there's a quality film idea

The Steve Jobs Story, starring Troy McClure

I just read about Sorkin's concept (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/11/aaron-sorkin-steve-jobs-biopic/), and presuming it's not a disinfo joke, I am actually now less interested in it*  :( especially in contrast to the FoD "iSteve" film  8)




* "this entire movie is going to be three scenes, and three scenes only, that all take place in real time." http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/11/15/aaron-sorkin-spills-secrets-about-jobs-biopic.html

Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on March 20, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
I just dislike the whole cult of personality, I love Apple products but I hate their fans.

Kind of like religion I guess :)
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 20, 2013, 02:55:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on March 20, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
I just dislike the whole cult of personality

or maybe things grew so big because (and not that the public would ever know this for sure) of not just a personality cult but something far more ... villainous, like http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/11/bahnhof/

Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Mr. Analog on March 20, 2013, 02:59:00 PM
The guy made Woz cry.

He was not, by all accounts, a nice man.
Title: Re: RIP: Steve Jobs
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 20, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on March 20, 2013, 02:59:00 PM
The guy made Woz cry.

He was not, by all accounts, a nice man.

Hence the Real Life evil lair (http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/11/bahnhof/) theory -- every wealthy villain needs one!  ;D