http://boingboing.net/2011/12/22/godaddy-supports-sopa-custome.html
Thought this would be interesting to post since although SOPA is a US bill it impacts the entire internet..
Yeah, I haven't exactly had a great opinion of GoDaddy to begin with. I think now I'll be transferring all 11 of my domains away.
Yes please do so, GoDaddy is bad enough WITHOUT the pro-SOPA stance...
Here's the full list of SOPA supporters:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/list-of-sopa-supporters/
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 23, 2011, 09:18:45 AM
Here's the full list of SOPA supporters:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/list-of-sopa-supporters/
WTF Marvel is on that list.
Yes, I shall have to leave the X-Men and join the Justice League.
Interesting, I just got an email from GoDaddy for a 30% off cupon code. Now that doesn't sound special, I get emails /like/ that all the time from Godaddy, except for one difference. It doesn't have any really gotchas, like "You have to spend $50 or more!" Its just a straight 30% off new registrations of .COM, .ORG, .NET, .BIZ, and.US domains. Interesting timing. I know, correlation does not imply causation, but still, interesting timing.
I suspect they are fully in panic mode right now
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 23, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
I suspect they are fully in panic mode right now
So far the response has been more like "We haven't seen any real effect, blah blah blah". When I see a 30% or more off sale on renewals as well, and /soon/, then I'll think they've started panicking.
My inbox has had at least one Christmas / Boxing Day sale offer in it each day this week.. I would not read into that offer too much.
Quote from: Lazybones on December 23, 2011, 10:22:54 AM
My inbox has had at least one Christmas / Boxing Day sale offer in it each day this week.. I would not read into that offer too much.
Indeed. But this isn't a christmas/boxing day sale. And it doesn't have the usual limitations (must spend X amount of money). I do agree though, its too early to read into it too much. Now if they bring out another one that isn't holiday oriented and gives deals on renewals and other things, then I'll think they are starting to fidget.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 23, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
I suspect they are fully in panic mode right now
If they are, I also suspect they're trying
really hard not to look like they're in panic mode.
Man, I didn't realize there were so many GoDaddy resellers. You really have to do research to make sure your money's not going to GoDaddy through a funnel. Kinda like the shell game.
Quote from: Thorin on December 23, 2011, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 23, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
I suspect they are fully in panic mode right now
If they are, I also suspect they're trying really hard not to look like they're in panic mode.
Man, I didn't realize there were so many GoDaddy resellers. You really have to do research to make sure your money's not going to GoDaddy through a funnel. Kinda like the shell game.
Not just resellers, but GoDaddy has alternate personalities. Look for a "Star" in their logo's just like GoDaddy has.
But here's some news: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/victory-boycott-forces-godaddy-to-drop-its-support-for-sopa.ars
GoDaddy dropped it's support like a rock.
I saw something like this coming, brand image is about the only thing GoDaddy has going for it, I suspect lots of painful meetings happened there this morning...
http://gizmodo.com/5870920/brave-godaddy-ceo-says-hes-neither-for-nor-against-sopa
Regardless of what they say, I'm probably still going to transfer away. Wasn't overly impressed to begin with, and something like this just shows what they think of their customers.
append: Just transferred the one domain that's expiring soon. I'll do the rest when I can afford it (11 * 8-11 is not something I can do atm ;D, $10 however is ok)
true and is the law goes through we might have to stick to .ca and avoid net,org and com
wow, SOPA ftl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Arguments_against) (as EFF sez "proxy servers... can be used to thwart copyright enforcement and therefore may be made illegal by the act") maybe SOPA should be subtitled "piracy-over-privacy, screw you protestors!"
"PIPA" is no different -- when you have this group of freedom/privacy proponents against it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act#Opponents), how you can you claim you are "serving the citizenry of the land of the free"? ::)
Quote from: Darren Dirt on December 29, 2011, 02:40:11 PM
wow, SOPA ftl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Arguments_against) (as EFF sez "proxy servers... can be used to thwart copyright enforcement and therefore may be made illegal by the act") maybe SOPA should be subtitled "piracy-over-privacy, screw you protestors!"
"PIPA" is no different -- when you have this group of freedom/privacy proponents against it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act#Opponents), how you can you claim you are "serving the citizenry of the land of the free"? ::)
Of course PIPA isn't any different. One is the bill going through congress, and the other is the "semi equivalent" going through the house. Eventually they'll both get merged if/when they both pass.
Exactly why this crap has to go.
"According to Boing Boing, Go Daddy has withdrawn their support for SOPA."
-via http://kottke.org/11/12/the-internets-go-daddy-issues
"Nintendo, Sony Back Off of SOPA Support" via http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/12/31/nintendo_sony_back_off_sopa_support/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/31/sopa-whos-in-and-whos-out/
New defectors \o/ including the BSA \o/
"Student warning! Do your homework early. Wikipedia protesting bad law on Wednesday!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/16/wikipedia-sopa-blackout-slammed-twitter
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501366_162-57359824/wikipedia-may-black-out-wednesday-in-protest/
...and Reddit... and tumblr... and quite a few other sites too.
SOPA has been taken down for now (pending revision)
SOPA* = "dream" killer http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/1/16/copyright-king-why-the-i-have-a-dream-speech-still-isn-t-free
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Martin Luther King Jr.?s ?I Have a Dream? speech is considered one of the most recognizable collection of words in American history. It?s the rhetorical equivalent of a national treasure or a national park. The National Park Service inscribed it on the Lincoln Memorial and the Library of Congress put it into its National Recording Registry. So we might hold it to be self evident that it can be spread freely.
Not exactly. Any unauthorized usage of the speech and a number of other speeches by King ? including in PBS documentaries ? is a violation of American law.
... King himself donated proceeds from licensing the speech to fund the civil rights movement, and the King family has made similar pledges. But while legal scholars might defend the family?s legal right to King?s legacy ? and few would argue with the family?s right to earn proceeds from that legacy ? others focus on the larger, obvious point: whether or not King would have wanted his ideas used in advertising, he certainly wouldn?t have wanted them to be kept out of documentaries about the history of the civil rights movement, for instance.
(http://www.viceland.com/viceblog/66465526mlk1.jpg)
*tbh, even before SOPA ... but it's stuff like this that SOPA will obviously be applied to :(
Yeah, PIPA's still planned for reading Jan 24th, though.
SOPA is NOT GONE it's just been shelved for rewording.
But again, the basic point of both SOPA and PIPA is to bypass due process and make it very, very easy for some organizations (well known for rational thinking) to take down any single site or user from the internet and for what? In theory to protect the IP rights holder, as if piracy doesn't exist outside mainstream internet.
looks like Wikout has gotten tons of mainstream attention.
(http://dcgn0mrmiumxb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Screen-Shot-2012-01-18-at-10.53.51-AM.png)
via http://goodmenproject.com/good-feed-blog/youtube-vs-hollywood-internet-war/
But you can still reach your article if you refresh the page and then stop the load before it redirects (push F5, then push Esc).
Quote from: Thorin on January 18, 2012, 09:08:22 PM
But you can still reach your article if you refresh the page and then stop the load before it redirects (push F5, then push Esc).
True... also I think post-load you can undo the blocker with Firebug etc. you could find the DIV that is hiding the content and just delete it (not quite as omg-so-easy as TheOnion.com's little "content protection" DIV is to remove!) But clicking ESCAPE is certainly the simplest method, as "revealed" by Wikipedia (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ#Are_there_ways_to_circumvent_the_read_blackout.3F).
btw re. SOAP/PIPA -- does it even have any teeth? Cuz it has no factual basis...
problem: basing public policy on facts that exist only in partisan fantasies
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/numbers-cited-sopa-supporters-may-be-fictitious
http://www.itworld.com/security/242587/best-evidence-showing-we-need-sopa-based-govt-studies-never-existed
the non-techies hopefully click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more and ... learn more.
and for those curious how Wikipedians got to the blackout decision, "fascinating" reading here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative
blackout is OVER (as of 30 seconds ago)
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/SOPA/Blackoutpage
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/434/wikipediablackout18jan2.png)
Check out the MPAA's response to the SOPA/PIPA blackout
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/read-the-mpaas-angry-response-to-the-sopa-blackou
As one of my tumblr friends put it: it's akin to Sauron calling the Hobbits terrorists...
Yeah, from Chris Dodd, the man who emphatically stated he would not become a lobbyist after retiring from the US senate (because at the time there were allegations he was accepting bribes and grease money from lobby groups that he could work for after retiring), who is now the head of the MPAA and_clearly_ a lobbyist.
Interesting that the response the MPAA chose to go with is, "Stop it you guys, you're being childish", instead of, "Here's why SOPA/PIPA are good". Indeed, if you read the release you'll see that the MPAA is now agreeing there is a very real and damaging problem with SOPA/PIPA. Maybe they're finally starting to see that SOPA/PIPA are not good?
Yep, when they're all out of logical options there's nothing left but ad hominem I guess...
It's not why I'M SO GOOD it's why THEY'RE SO BAD.
At that point I just stop listening, which makes Canadian politics difficult to hear
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 19, 2012, 08:48:41 AM
Yep, when they're all out of logical options there's nothing left but ad hominem I guess...
It's not why I'M SO GOOD it's why THEY'RE SO BAD.
Welcome to the current GOP nomination circus ;)
http://9gag.com/gag/1922457
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1922457_700b.jpg)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 19, 2012, 08:48:41 AM
Yep, when they're all out of logical options there's nothing left but ad hominem I guess...
It's not why I'M SO GOOD it's why THEY'RE SO BAD.
At that point I just stop listening, which makes Canadian politics difficult to hear
Politics? I thought we only had the Royal Canadian (hot air?) Farce!
Some pretty famous web guy hopes SOPA *passes*! Why? Well...
... "Because that's exactly what we need to wake up from this slumbering, do-nothing, "occupy everything," stagnant, non-action slump we Americans are in."
- http://maddox.xmission.com/
QuoteSOPA is the "Stop Online Piracy Act." It's a @%&#ty piece of legislation put together by puppetmaster lobbyists and politician puppets who don't know IP addresses from their assholes. My problem with this huge online protest against SOPA, and the reason I rarely take part in such protests, is because it doesn't address any problems, only the symptom. The problem isn't this @%&#ty bill, it's the people who sponsored it. So we protest this bill today, bang enough pots and pans to shame a few backers into not letting this bill pass, then what? Those same dip@%&#s who wrote this legislation still have jobs. They're going to try again, and again, and again until some mutation of this legislation passes. They'll sneak it into an appropriation bill while nobody's looking during recess, because there's too much lobbyist money at stake for them not to. We defeat SOPA today, only to face it again tomorrow. It's like trying to stop a cold by blowing your nose. It's time we go after the virus.
The sad thing is that things like the PATRIOT act swished on by reversing Magna Carta and providing a foothold for totalitarianism without much resistance but most people didn't care because it didn't touch them.
Does it really take a finger to the eye before "brain turn on"? Yes apparently.
Under SOPA, you could get 5 years for uploading a Michael Jackson song, 1 more year than the doctor who killed him. @%&#ing bull@%&# really.
http://twitter.com//ThatComicalGuy/status/159873215617966080
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Hackers have targeted the US government and copyright organisations following the shutdown of the Megaupload file-sharing website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16646023
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Hours later a statement linked to the @AnonymousWiki twitter account announced: "We Anonymous are launching our largest attack ever on government and music industry sites. Lulz. The FBI didn't think they would get away with this did they? They should have expected us."
http://www.universalmusic.com/
The Site is under maintenance. Please expect it to be back shortly.
lulz?
but seriously... wtf with the shutdown+indictments?
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3. L_and_D
1 HOUR AGO
"I don't understand what Megaupload could've done to prevent this.
They swiftly remove violating content, which will inevitably appear due to their business model. They do not condone piracy, and comply with DMCAs.
How does this differ from youtube? Mediafire? Or any website which unwittingly hosts copyrighted content?
That the staff have been indicted is sickening."
Agreed! Countless times copyrighted material gets removed, once somebody flags it as such. No different than Youtube. Just happens that Megaupload has a much larger # of uploads, and probably a smaller staff than YT. imo this kind of legal action is no different than shutting down the CNN website because some article has comments by an extremist threatening violence against POTUS or something ... and it doesn't get removed "fast enough".
MegaUpload was more than a bit dodgy however the manner in which foreigners were extradited is questionable (none of them were US citizens nor had they set foot on US soil, all they did was host a server in the US).
The retaliatory Anonymous strike was sort of pointless (take down some websites for a while big whoop) however the fallout from these attacks has me a bit worried about how the afeared slugs in Congress will react.
I hate to put on the tinfoil hat but it seems to me that after a day of painful damage control and expensive spin it would be in the interest of Big Media to bait a trap for knee-jerk reactionaries to do something Stupid and Illegal (DDoS) so that they can prattle on about the ugly side of things rather loudly, burying the shining light of the Wednesday blackouts.
It worries me what the average muggle is going to think of all this, they get their news from the Radio/Television hate-machine or Rupert Murdoch soaked broadsheet lies.
Of course on the light side these issues have finally penetrated the public consciousness, I was taken by surprise when some less than tech savvy friends of mine were actually all up in arms over the upcoming ACTA signing hitting the UK soon. Now they know what I was tweeting about back in Oct/Sept and why sites like OpenMedia.ca even exist. These issues are finally in the open and on the table.
Anyway, it's been interesting to watch these rights issues unfold over the last decade and now that we can more clearly see how they're being used I think more people can help oppose the monolithic dominance that currently exists.
May you live in interesting times indeed...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on January 20, 2012, 11:55:50 AM
MegaUpload was more than a bit dodgy
dang, stupid idiotic internal emails ftl...
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/why-the-feds-smashed-megaupload.ars
"think of the CHILDREN!" ::)
http://www.itworld.com/security/251584/sopa-replacement-uses-child-porn-excuse-spy-997-percent-americans
Oh, this reminds me, I still have 10 domains to transfer away from GoDaddy.
Blah, I just renewed my domain today actually. Damn NS hassle-machine went into overdrive...
What could happen if SOPA had passed? Well, even without SOPA apparently websites can be made to "disappear" without explanation:
http://www.itworld.com/security/251042/jotform-takedown-shows-anti-sopa-hysteria-wasnt-alarming-enough
Yeah, its pretty stupid. They can already do the things SOPA would let them do, just maybe a bit more "legitimately".
You can always pull a website if it violates Law, SOPA was about bypassing due process where the offender would have to be notified BEFORE action is taken.
The linked article explains that JotForm was never notified, not before, not during, not even after, and no explanation was given. Due process was thrown right out the window on that one.
Quote from: Thorin on February 22, 2012, 04:33:59 PM
The linked article explains that JotForm was never notified, not before, not during, not even after, and no explanation was given. Due process was thrown right out the window on that one.
Then they have a case that they can take to court, under SOPA no dice.
Quote from: Tom on February 22, 2012, 03:16:39 PM
Oh, this reminds me, I still have 10 domains to transfer away from GoDaddy.
yer welcome.
only good thing about SOPA so far... I discovered the amazing "JotForm.com" which is way cool:
http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/250642/sopa-style-shutdown-jotformcom
http://jotform.com/ <-- just played around with it and super-impressed with the extremely intuitive DHTML UI.
Darren posted a link to Pink's Let's Get This Party Started, and another link to Madagascar's I Like To Move It, Move It. That led to me clicking another link. When Stewie heard it he said, "That should be SOPA's theme song!" Here's that link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLGkuG0WWtA&feature=related
It also reminds me of good times at Highfield.
Quote from: Thorin on March 10, 2012, 06:50:38 PM
Darren posted a link to Pink's Let's Get This Party Started, and another link to Madagascar's I Like To Move It, Move It. That led to me clicking another link. When Stewie heard it he said, "That should be SOPA's theme song!" Here's that link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLGkuG0WWtA&feature=related
It also reminds me of good times at Highfield.
Hm, I just posted those two videos "yesterday"... But on topic, I transferred the rest of the domains I'll be keeping, away from godaddy a few days ago.
Hmm, yeah, I probably wasn't paying close enough attention to who posted what when I hastily logged on, then ran out the door to get to said party that had to get started where we like to move it move it.
Good for you for keeping with your plans to move away from GoDaddy. Which registrar did you end up moving to?
Ha!
Quote from: Thorin on March 11, 2012, 02:51:09 PM
Hmm, yeah, I probably wasn't paying close enough attention to who posted what when I hastily logged on, then ran out the door to get to said party that had to get started where we like to move it move it.
Good for you for keeping with your plans to move away from GoDaddy. Which registrar did you end up moving to?
Namecheap.