in other words might not be as bad as we were expecting... but even if it is, at least full points for "style"
http://dai.ly/HKOePj
1. The trailer shows they are at least paying respect to the original (http://www.google.com/search?q=If+I+am+not+me%2C+then+who+the+hell+am+I%3F)
2. don't forget, the Arnie Original hasn't exactly "aged" well, and it was intended to be less comical than it ended up being, so it's not like they are remaking that movie with the newspaper guy who runs for political office and misses his childhood sled, what was that called...
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/total-recall-trailer-exceeds-expectations-with-mind-blowing-visuals-nadam.php
QuoteWhen it first got announced that they were going to remake Paul Verhoeven?s action/sci-fi classic Total Recall, the collective groans of film fans could be heard the world over. If there was ever an action movie full of iconic imagery and quotable lines that didn?t need to be sullied, it was that Arnold Schwarzenegger-starring original. This remake was going to star a pipsqueak like Colin Farrell instead of a mountain of muscle like Arnie, nobody was going to be getting their asses to Mars, and there wasn?t even any confirmation that it would include a three-boobed hooker. Who needed it?
Well, after watching the first full-length trailer, I?d say that anybody who?s ever been a fan of adrenaline pumping action, jaw dropping special effects, sprawling future cities, the feminine wiles of Kate Beckinsale or Jessica Biel, Bryan Cranston acting grizzled, guns, explosions, or Stormtroopers needs this movie.
Bottom line, this looks like some large scale, intricately designed, impressively pulled off, blockbuster action/sci-fi work that?s going to have everyone losing their collective minds once it?s projected onto the big screen. Nothing in Len Wiseman?s career has hinted at the fact that he could pull off anything as big in scope and visually astounding as the stuff in this trailer. I?m almost ready to forgive him for all that bad CG in Live Free or Die Hard already.
Yeah, Cohaagen might not need to give the people air, and this movie might have flying cars instead of Johnny Cabs, but if the finished product is able to live up to the select clips from this trailer, it?s not likely that anybody is going to be thinking about the original as they?re cheering and fist pumping their way through it. No, if the film lives up to the promise of this first trailer, cinema geeks are going to be proud to set it right next to the original on the shelf where they keep their movie collection.
And, for the record, Len Wiseman told Collider last summer that this thing was even going to have its own three-boobed hooker.
Was there some other trailer? The one I saw looked like a reconstruction of some scenes from the original Arnie flick and other scenes were noisy CG car chases and gunfights...
I just have a preset hate on remakes now I guess, even for crappy/guilty pleasure movies.
I also feel burnt out on the current generation of action movies, everything is so unreal, I feel no connection to the action at all. As fun as watching a string of explosions and gunfights there's a big thing missing if I can't identify with the world OR the characters. I don't know, maybe it will surprise me and turn out to be a fun movie (like Fifth Element or Bullitt or Dirty Harry)
For now all I'm looking forward to is the chick with the three boobs...
Like I said in OP, sure the original was awesome at the time, but it ain't exactly blasphemy to remake it with a greatly modified plot (heck, the TV series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_2070) was quite different than the movie -- some say it was no more "untrue" to the PKD source material (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Can_Remember_It_for_You_Wholesale) than the film!)
As long as the plot is slightly convulated with a few decent twists and betrayals and a nice juicy villain death in the penultimate scene, I think this could be a winner. Won't succeed just based on pretty visuals (CG and Jessica/Kate).
I just feel like... what's the point though
I know what the twist is (is this the real life or is this just fantasy)
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:30:50 AM
No escape from reality?
Well, you could escape to your antie and uncle in Bel Air...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:39:13 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/m5Udp.jpg)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/138/244/funny-barack-michelle-obama-face.jpg)
well played sir!
So... funny story: They don't go to Mars in this one.
Looks like it's going to be your standard issue secret agent/action flick with pointless CG car chases (hint: not exciting since it looks fake as hell)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 10, 2012, 01:24:51 PM
So... funny story: They don't go to Mars in this one.
You really didn't know that until just now?
That was the first, and biggest, complaint the Hardcore Fans whined about when they first heard of the remake (yes, they whined about that more, and more loudly, than about Colin Farrell "replacing" Ahnold).
Quote from: Darren Dirt on April 10, 2012, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 10, 2012, 01:24:51 PM
So... funny story: They don't go to Mars in this one.
You really didn't know that until just now?
That was the first, and biggest, complaint the Hardcore Fans whined about when they first heard of the remake (yes, they whined about that more, and more loudly, than about Colin Farrell "replacing" Ahnold).
Yeah, I haven't really been following it all that much, but yowza, I feel like this is gonna be "Catwoman" all over again, like it's some other Sci-Fi film but they changed just enough around to make it somewhat Total Recall-y enough to sell tickets.
I'll dig out the original and watch it, see how well it holds up...
trailer #2 is out:
"If I'm not me, then who the hell am I?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx_9uxohMTI
(also, triple-breasted lady)
That trailer looks much better I guess, I dunno
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS
:D
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qdpzn/
Bryan Cranston -- the new Ronny Cox?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 03, 2012, 11:07:20 AM
That trailer looks much better I guess, I dunno
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS
:D
It is supposed to be much closer to the original book. The first movie was quite the departure.
And that last trailer looks pretty darn good if you ask me.
Yeah, I'm thinking of going next week after Fraga
Quote from: Mr. Analog on August 08, 2012, 11:38:23 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking of going next week after Fraga
I'm in!
If I'm not going to this moviefilm with you guys, then who the hell am I [gonna go with]?
A'ight well, I'm off all next week so any day after Monday is open so far.
I'm good for any evening. Or I can do a matinee. just depends on how work is. Normally I take tues off, but with fraga and taking monday off to relax after, I plan on working tues, just like I worked yesterday to not lose too many days of work from frag.
Yeah, I'm sure Monday is gonna be Fraga hangover for most of us :) haha
still haven't seen this remake/reboot/re___ , but maybe its production got Arnie thinking about how fun it was being a leading man action hero.
Because he's got a whole Liam Neeson / Clint Eastwood "softspoken tough old guy fights back" vibe in an upcoming film:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+last+stand+trailer
That reminds me I saw a video today that did a scene by scene comparison of the old trailer and one of the newer trailers and they're nearly identical in both timing and dialogue. It was great, I'll see if I can dig it up tonight.
:B
Man, I finally saw this and boy I am GLAD I didn't go to the theatre.
What a waste.
Get your ass to the Razzies!
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Actually it's not even bad enough to be good: not bad, not good, not anything
It may well have not existed and I would not have noticed the difference. It was a waste of time, and I've seen Radar Secret Service more than once...
It seemed also to be trying very hard to be Bladerunner in parts, which was pretty silly.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 08, 2012, 09:32:23 AM
It seemed also to be trying very hard to be Bladerunner in parts, which was pretty silly.
I agree... Bladerunner, in parts, was pretty silly.
(http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-1008-1201-0349_Kid_Ducking_in_Fear_clipart_image.jpg)
Somebody gonna get a hurt.
I thought the special effects and set design in the new Total Recall was amazing! And I can watch Kate all day long. While the move wasn't as good as the original it was bareable for me.
I just was in awe of the set design, and can't really say why, other than it was visually stunning to me.
Even that was bad IMO, the CG shots looked awful and the sets had the same extras over and over.
There wasn't a lot of set variety, I think that was another problem.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 08, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
Somebody gonna get a hurt.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Why+I+hate+Blade+Runner
Jus' sayin'.
But no, you aren't, 'cos that's a question.
Why does Darren hate Bladerunner?
In a word -- boring. It's like it's trying to hard to be hip ... and imo it really hasn't aged well (ditto for the origianl Total Recall, but at least it's multi-rewatchable).
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=132645
"In a poll of the members of the 1992 World Science Fiction Convention, Blade Runner was voted the third best sci-fi film of all time behind Star Wars and 2001: A Space Odyssey. What it shares with those films ? and it's sexier than the former, and deeper than the latter ? is influence. Blade Runner rewrote the rulebook and altered the way sci-fi movies looked forever."
^ I basically agree with the sentiment listed above -- which by the way was said in 1992, 20 years ago, a lot of time has passed since then and that sometimes gets people questioning the status quo re. opinions on "classics" -- but even to this day I don't mind re-watching those other 2 films again and again and again (i.e. no difficulty staying awake / "caring" about the characters and the events they are experiencing).
It seems that since in the last couple of decade $ has really affected mainstream "art". The Suits seem to now be so hesitant in greenlighting a Big Release that isn't a sequel or reboot or remake or adaptation of a successful novel (an obvious reality that was satirized wonderfully in "The Player") ... so as a result nostalgia is amplified when it comes to old stuff that pioneered some aspect of the movie experience/industry... even if it wasn't universally considered a "good" moving-picture telling of a story.
"Influential" does not automatically mean "good" imo. Citizen Kane woulda been good even if it didn't introduce/improveupon a TON of film-making and storytelling techniques.
Personally I think folks are afraid to question whether BR is "deep", I think it tries to hard to pretend it's deep -- then again maybe it was the first Big Release that touched on potential dramatic changes in technology and how it might affect society. But if that's true it was either too subtle (and thus less powerful in whatever message it was trying to suggest people consider) or else it made the rest of the storytelling suffer (i.e. just surface exploration of some coulda-been-really-interesting characters like the toymaker guy who later was "Larry" on Newhart). I guess maybe "boring" isn't the best one-word response -- maybe more like "unbalanced" or something. ???
edit:
http://www.therpf.com/f47/what-fascination-blade-runner-124653/#post1831919
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Re: What is the facination with Blade Runner?
I have watched it a couple of times and while I don't outright hate it, I don't see the genius that a lot of people see. It is a bit dull and boring for me and just weird. There are some really interesting themes about life and death, but aside from that, as an overall movie, I wasn't very entertained.
this got me thinking -- I enjoyed "Adaptation" and especially "Synecdoche, New York", both of them dealing with "really interesting themes about life and death", and although towards the end SNY has pretty psychadelic visuals etc. I think that neither one of them was pioneering anything, it was the character-driven storytelling. Maybe as an ever-growing-old fart I just ain't wowed by shiny stuff as much any more, I need a Human Experience (i.e. ST:TOS or TNG and maybe DS9 over just about any V or E, not that
that is a contrary position ;) )
Keep in mind, I will sit through almost any "dystopian" sci fi, even from the 1970s or 1960s ... and I gave BR a try on a weekend, even read some heavy analysis of its themes to see if it would help me "get it". Didn't.
Holy poo an opinion! Good :)
I disagree with the comment regarding pacing, I think it's a very well paced film there is a steady build to the climax which gains power from that determined steadiness. The sense of loneliness in a crowded world is portrayed perfectly as scenes involving large crowds tend to have the slower pace where more intimate scenes are fast moving with sharp dialogue. As the film progresses you realize that the main character has the same questions about himself that the audience does, which drives home the ending even further.
The set design and cinematography also appeals as there is a sense of scale to things with few establishing shots, most of the scale is presented through closeups which is very odd but works.
There is a disconnect between the model work and the street level stuff for some scenes but it is still very well done and I think it stands the test of time. If anything it still creates the atmosphere that sets the scene.
The film is disguised as a sci-fi/noir thriller but indirectly poses some interesting questions about life/death and what it might mean to create new life, far more powerful than a fantasy romp like Star Wars but also a lot less "fun" I guess.
Ahhh the late 60s / 70s, home of nihilistic pessimism... 25 years worth of Cold War anxiety took its toll on the psyche that's for sure, there's a good history of apocalypse/dystopian films that popped up after 1945 some of them actually have some interesting and tight-gripping dramatic moments ("Five", "On the Beach", "The Creation of the Humanoids"), oddly enough I watched "INVASION U.S.A." and "Panic in the Year Zero!" last night. The former a classic Red Scare film which is unintentionally hilarious and the latter a semi-serious look at Armageddon and the aftermath (shares MUCH with modern zombie fiction [there are no zombies though] all about survival of the fittest, what it means to be civilized, etc).
I do love me some Trek, I recently re-watched Enterprise and realized how good it was after the first season. Season 3&4 were brilliant.
I also actually bought the HD remastered versions of ToS, I keep watching it over and over...
update: after reading a few more pros (and the occasional) cons on this thread -- http://www.therpf.com/f47/what-fascination-blade-runner-124653/index3.html -- I gotta point out, I chose to see the narration-free version, which apparently has improved editing, but no narration. So the "film noir" feel is reduced, and it's a lot less spoon-feeding of the meaning of certain events and/or dialog.
Funny thing is, a majority of the "pros" in that thead had originally seen the narration version, multiple times, usually when it first came out ... so even when today they watch the DC it's like they still hear Mr. Ford's voice in certain places ... explaining things. Things they might not otherwise know (and a few even said they WISH they could do a brain wipe and watch the narration-free version first, just to see if they would appreciate it in a different way). In a way they are honest that they are a kind of "biased" in terms of their experience (see http://www.therpf.com/f47/what-fascination-blade-runner-124653/index4.html#post1834902 )
So... not sure if that helps you get where I'm coming from. (and I chose to finally watch it on a weekend around June of 2012 ... way after I've seen PLENTY of films that were clearly influenced by BR in terms of visuals, storytelling tone, pacing, etc.)
PS:
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 10, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
As the film progresses you realize that the main character has the same questions about himself that the audience does, which drives home the ending even further.
I get the feeling that some of that "realization" comes from narration, n'est pas?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 10, 2012, 09:57:04 AM
I do love me some Trek, I recently re-watched Enterprise and realized how good it was after the first season. Season 3&4 were brilliant.
I also actually bought the HD remastered versions of ToS, I keep watching it over and over...
ST:E = yes it started focusing on actual CHARACTERS and telling interesting STORIES instead of just being about gadgets and shiny stuff and attempting to merge/modify Canon.
ST:TOS = yes it's like what you said about BR, spread over a few dozen hours ... what it means to be human, the balancing of subjective emotions and objective logic, indpendent lone wolf captain decision making vs. leaning on the team and considering community needs and interests of the crew and even humanity at large, etc.
It's impossible for me to say as the first version I saw was the narrated version, plus I've had 20 years of watching/re-watching to absorb it all.
All I know is that 1982 was a great year for Sci-Fi (Khan, ET, Tron, The Thing... so many good flicks)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 10, 2012, 10:11:58 AM
The Thing... so many good flicks)
DAMMIT #anotheronehaven'tseenyet #andicallmyselfadarkscififan
!!!!
How could you have NOT seen this one???
Now that's a movie for a cold, scary night.
In fact I like both versions, they are both gripping (though the '82 version is a LOT scarier thanks to mind-blowing SFX)
http://screenrant.com/total-recall-2012-vs-1990/
Total Recall films (2012, 1990) vs the original 1966 story.
It would appear that the pre-release claim that it would be "more faithful to the original source material than the Ahnold film" = bull$h1t. #shock
Here's my working theory:
The film was actually called "Tunnel Freefall" but there was a typo on the first draft of the script.
I mean how else could it have been made?
Furthermore GEDD YOAHR AHSS TOOH LOHNDON!
I have this horrible feeling like, they're going to remake The Running Man except it will be a gritty sci-fi action-noir murder mystery about a professional sports fan who can't stop adding numbers, and instead of a game show he will have to navigate the towering labyrinthine corridors of power in a world populated by throwaway mono-dimensional characters and a story whose main plot point involves a tricky situation over a Pound note (and a Sausage named Baldrick).
Of course there will be a 3 second cameo of a gladiator wearing armor festooned with blinky LEDs, y'know, to appeas fans of the original goofy 80s film.