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Title: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 04, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
So last night I was running around getting ready to lay the foundation for my house and I stayed out too late and got caught by spiders.  They killed me, and when I chose "Respawn" I was told there was an error with my bed and it put me all the way back to the spawn point.  By the time I got back, all my gear was gone, including over a thousand blocks of stone and sandstone for that foundation.

Anyway!  I ended up doing a bunch more sand-gathering and running east-west along my as-yet-unnamed surface road, and creepers started following me.  And then blowing up.  And taking chunks out of my road :(

DAMN CREEPERS

Also, is there a way to measure how many hours you've been online?  I've had four days of play time and I'm wondering if I've cracked 30 hours yet.

DAMN ADDICTING GAME
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 09:32:50 AM
FYI it took me a while to get used to it, but to deal with creepers you really need one of these http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bow and lots of arrows.

Also, being a total wuss until I had iron armor I would tend to travel by tunneling instead of walking over land. Added bonuse of gathering resources on the way.. JourneyMap really helps with direction when underground.

Also I exploded MANY times with those bastards sneaking up on me when I first joined the server... That is why I went away from spawn station... Even with hiding in houses I was constantly being blown up the moment I stepped out the door and had to repair peoples fences many times.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 09:36:28 AM
Oh yes, armor makes a HUGE difference, enchanting weapons helps quite a bit too.

When a sword or bow starts getting low on health you better make sure you have a back up too, nothing worse than getting stuck in a bad situation because your sword broke...

I am surprised that your stuff glitched out though, what's up with that?
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 04, 2012, 09:54:56 AM
Yeah, I didn't like the idea of tunneling because I didn't have a map originally.  Plus I was planning on making my area the kind of place one might wander around in.  That's changed a bit, though, now that I've encountered enough creepers.

I have way too many swords and shovels and picks now, and I always carry at least two of each :)

I thought your gear disappears after a while?  Especially if you're two biomes away.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
Not if you put it in a chest, if you leave it lying around it will disappear
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 10:04:04 AM
Quote from: Thorin on April 04, 2012, 09:54:56 AM
I thought your gear disappears after a while?  Especially if you're two biomes away.

5 min is what I read, IE half a night or day in game.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 04, 2012, 10:39:56 AM
I didn't put it in a chest because I didn't have one with me.  I had all the materials for building, and that filled my inventory to the max.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 10:50:08 AM
hehe here is a hint.  Always have no less than 20 wood blocks on you at all times.  I typically always have a 64 stack before going anywhere.  You will find in my exploration areas workbenches randomly.  And chests are just a workbench and 8 wood blocks away!

But yeah if I can my standard gear up outfit is 2 swords (usually diamonds), 2 pick axes (usually diamonds but ran iron for a whole month), 2 shovels (iron seems fine for me), 1 axe (iron or stone), 1 hoe (stone), stack of arrows, a bow, 64 coal, 64 wood, 64 torches, 64 iron, iron armour, and 40 food (what ever I have - steak seems to be my guys favorite).
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 10:52:01 AM
Wood is all you need, with wood you can make the basics and live.

Always carry wood


LAAAAAAAAWL
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 04, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
"usually diamonds"

..

must be nice
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
All I can say is Strip-mine - where my diamonds come from.  Rarely do I find them cave or cavern exploring.  Always the strip-mine for me.  I know it isn't as efficient to find diamonds as Mr. Analog's corridor mine design, but I need the stone as well for other builds, so I find it as rewarding.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
All I can say is Strip-mine - where my diamonds come from.  Rarely do I find them cave or cavern exploring.  Always the strip-mine for me.  I know it isn't as efficient to find diamonds as Mr. Analog's corridor mine design, but I need the stone as well for other builds, so I find it as rewarding.

The problem is that strip mining takes longer unless you have high level picks already...
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
All I can say is Strip-mine - where my diamonds come from.  Rarely do I find them cave or cavern exploring.  Always the strip-mine for me.  I know it isn't as efficient to find diamonds as Mr. Analog's corridor mine design, but I need the stone as well for other builds, so I find it as rewarding.

The problem is that strip mining takes longer unless you have high level picks already...

TNT!

The only trouble is lava...
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
Hey I started with stone pickaxes.  Soon I had enough iron to get iron pickaxes.  And only in the last 2 weeks have I been using the diamond pickaxes.  How long have I been playing now?

Most of my mine is done with iron pickaxes.  And it is fairly large :D.  Time invested probably higher than Mr. Analogs, but as you said in game, I probably have the highest stock pile of diamonds than anyone.  That being said, I could have been lucky with my mine location - and Tom can check the logs if you think I got any of it from my Op status :P - I assure you I have not.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
All I can say is Strip-mine - where my diamonds come from.  Rarely do I find them cave or cavern exploring.  Always the strip-mine for me.  I know it isn't as efficient to find diamonds as Mr. Analog's corridor mine design, but I need the stone as well for other builds, so I find it as rewarding.

The problem is that strip mining takes longer unless you have high level picks already...

TNT!

The only trouble is lava...

For clearing space yes, but getting resources... TNT bad: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/TNT

QuoteMining using TNT might be faster than mining by hand but it is impractical for gathering resources; about 70% of the blocks are completely destroyed in the process. In addition, TNT is not very effective when used to mine cobblestone and ores and is only time efficient when mining blocks with a low damage resistance, such as dirt or sand. The items needed to make TNT are quite valuable and may be a waste of resources if nothing is gained out of it. Nevertheless, TNT can be a part of efficient mining techniques - as the means of removing unneeded layers of blocks and exposing underlying layers. It can also be used for clearing large volumes for underground building projects.

Still Water, Lava, Obsidian and Bedrock are the only materials that will resist a TNT explosion.

So looks like Diamonds might be destroyed.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Tom on April 04, 2012, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:28:49 AM
All I can say is Strip-mine - where my diamonds come from.  Rarely do I find them cave or cavern exploring.  Always the strip-mine for me.  I know it isn't as efficient to find diamonds as Mr. Analog's corridor mine design, but I need the stone as well for other builds, so I find it as rewarding.

The problem is that strip mining takes longer unless you have high level picks already...

TNT!

The only trouble is lava...

For clearing space yes, but getting resources... TNT bad: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/TNT

QuoteMining using TNT might be faster than mining by hand but it is impractical for gathering resources; about 70% of the blocks are completely destroyed in the process. In addition, TNT is not very effective when used to mine cobblestone and ores and is only time efficient when mining blocks with a low damage resistance, such as dirt or sand. The items needed to make TNT are quite valuable and may be a waste of resources if nothing is gained out of it. Nevertheless, TNT can be a part of efficient mining techniques - as the means of removing unneeded layers of blocks and exposing underlying layers. It can also be used for clearing large volumes for underground building projects.

Still Water, Lava, Obsidian and Bedrock are the only materials that will resist a TNT explosion.

So looks like Diamonds might be destroyed.
Likely. I've had creepers destroy diamonds on me. That wasn't fun.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:41:20 AM
Too good for wood pickaxe eh? For shame (j/k)
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 11:43:55 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
How long have I been playing now?
Almost exactly one month.
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,8297.msg57365.html#msg57365

Now for perspective, Mr. A has been playing since before the server was reset.
So for current progress compared to Mr.A, he has been on this version of the server since Jan 28 / Feb 1 when the server came back clean, so he has two months on you....
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,8297.msg56503.html#msg56503
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 04, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: Lazybones on April 04, 2012, 11:43:55 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on April 04, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
How long have I been playing now?
Almost exactly one month.
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,8297.msg57365.html#msg57365

Now for perspective, Mr. A has been playing since before the server was reset.
So for current progress compared to Mr.A, he has been on this version of the server since Jan 28 / Feb 1 when the server came back clean, so he has two months on you....
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,8297.msg56503.html#msg56503

Man, that puts some perspective on things. I'll say this about the old server, it was much less lively. Having more people online really spices it up.

I think more experience with the game helps too, I'm more adventurous in what I try to do and less worried about what I'll lose doing it. I've been impressed with the builds I've done and what I've seen other people do.

We have an amazing group of creative people and I see it only getting better with time. It won't be too far in the future when we have a whole world crammed with cool stuff :)
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 05, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
It's all I can think about at the moment, getting back on.  Although I need to do some planning for whatever I'm going to do next.

I ended up digging a 1 wide 2 high tunnel from my one building to my other.  It really is safer to go underground instead of overland.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 05, 2012, 03:39:52 PM
Quote from: Thorin on April 05, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
It's all I can think about at the moment, getting back on.  Although I need to do some planning for whatever I'm going to do next.

I ended up digging a 1 wide 2 high tunnel from my one building to my other.  It really is safer to go underground instead of overland.

Yep, it's one way to go. Another is long, narrow bridges in the sky :D

On our old server I had "skyways" connecting all the major houses n'stuff
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 05, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
Neither tunnel nor skyway fit my current theme :(  But I needed to stop getting blowed up by creepers (there were five hissing through a window at my last night!)

On a related note, I need to figure out how to keep creepers and other mobs away.  Fences make a safe zone as long as there's enough light, right?
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Tom on April 05, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
Quote from: Thorin on April 05, 2012, 04:16:35 PM
Neither tunnel nor skyway fit my current theme :(  But I needed to stop getting blowed up by creepers (there were five hissing through a window at my last night!)

On a related note, I need to figure out how to keep creepers and other mobs away.  Fences make a safe zone as long as there's enough light, right?
One option:

Cobble/Stone slabs + fence + torches. Mobs can't spawn on slabs, fence will keep mobs out, and  torches should help keep them from spawning anywhere close.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 05, 2012, 04:22:52 PM
Fences + light work for most of the mobs, spiders can climb over the fences... The stone slabs are another good option..

Always good to simply have a back door out of a building or a tunnel of some sort that exits a little ways away...
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 05, 2012, 04:24:22 PM
Also another tip, you can put stone or wood pressure plates on the insides of your doors and gates. They will open automatically on your way out (careful when mobs are around) and they will auto close behind you when you run in... Don't put them on the outside as the mobs will trigger them as well.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on April 05, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
Enough light will do the trick, of course mobs do tend to wander...

Sounds like you were enjoying the rare occurrence of a mob of mobs spawning (something like 5 to 6 of a given type!).

Oh yes, the other day I found several doors open at various locations and it made me wonder who the newb was. Don't be a Xephos! Don't leave your door open!
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Thorin on April 05, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
Spiders can still climb over the fences and come into the yard, though.  And they can be hostile if they were hiding in the shade of a tree.

Maybe I need a 3-high fence with "barbed wire" on the outside, like so:

XX
X
X

where "X" is a fence piece.  But that's kinda ugly, and one of those times were function makes for ugly form.
Title: Re: DAMN CREEPERS (and spiders!)
Post by: Lazybones on April 05, 2012, 07:03:39 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on April 05, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
Oh yes, the other day I found several doors open at various locations and it made me wonder who the newb was. Don't be a Xephos! Don't leave your door open!

Need more pressure plates.... However I have seen those get stuck some times