these preview posters really DO look like something out of a Cracked photoshop contest.
http://www.funnyordie.com/lists/1332a26d65/quiz-which-nbc-show-is-real-and-which-is-photoshopped-parody
Matthew Perry seriously focus on your dramatic acting, based on "Numb" imo you actually have some talent there bro... don't keep seeling your soul to The ManPeacock!
(http://i.imgur.com/nEzWm.jpg)
And this is why I don't have cable any more...
Quote from: Lazybones on May 23, 2012, 03:25:08 PM
And this is why I don't have cable any more...
If it weren't for sports, AMC and
Legend of Korra I'd be done with it too...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 23, 2012, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on May 23, 2012, 03:25:08 PM
And this is why I don't have cable any more...
If it weren't for sports, AMC and Legend of Korra I'd be done with it too...
Well the AMC and Legend of Korra content can be seen in HD from other places. But yeah the sports is one problem for the online community.
I don't know if NETFLIX or the like would save me any money in that regard heh.
Eh, speaking of which New York or New Jersey tonight?
Any takers?
New Jersey
I'm wit choo, I think the Rangers are gonna choke big time
if your brain isn't fully melted, there's some video teasers of the new crop of fertilizer the NBC farmers are tossing out there...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/nbc-new-show-trailers-2012-2013_n_1515499.html
NOPE (http://youtu.be/gvdf5n-zI14)
among the "3 minute teasers which are really just the best parts of the pilot episode for each new series", there's a non-comedy: "Revolution" (appears to be something like "Jericho meets Flash Forward meets Dark Angel" sorta? And it's not insta-dismiss cuz it's "from director Jon Favreau and the fertile imaginations of J.J. Abrams and Eric Kripke".
Sure, let the high concept and talented cast/crew get my hopes up just like Alcatraz did... TV, at your heart I stab.
DOUBLE (http://youtu.be/gvdf5n-zI14) NOPE (http://youtu.be/gvdf5n-zI14)
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 23, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
"Revolution" (appears to be something like "Jericho meets Flash Forward meets Dark Angel" sorta? And it's not insta-dismiss cuz it's "from director Jon Favreau and the fertile imaginations of J.J. Abrams and Eric Kripke".
add to that the final moments* of the Keanu Reeves remake of TDTESS (*spoiler ;)
Quote from: Lazybones on May 23, 2012, 03:25:08 PM
And this is why I don't have cable any more...
but... but... BOBBY LEE!
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/225453/slide_225453_958883_free.jpg)
Wait. Who's the one who got rid of their TV again?
Or wait is this all YouTube clips?
;)
Ha-hah... facetious.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 23, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
Sure, let the high concept and talented cast/crew get my hopes up just like Alcatraz did... TV, at your heart I stab.
I remember not so long ago you were saying you don't watch TV anymore. Has that changed?
Hah, same post as me
I'm pretty sure Darren watches TV in disconnected metaphor format only
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra...
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!!
(translated: WTF doesn't he get this?!)
Wuh oh, maybe NBC will find this thread...
TONIGHT on "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" Darmok finds Jalad's been cheating... *canned laughter*
Quote from: Thorin on May 23, 2012, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 23, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
Sure, let the high concept and talented cast/crew get my hopes up just like Alcatraz did... TV, at your heart I stab.
I remember not so long ago you were saying you don't watch TV anymore. Has that changed?
couchtuner is a decent streaming site I found last summer, it's still up and has a ton of shows with almost instant viewability for when I've got a half hour to kill and I don't feel like cleaning or doing anything productive... Only gave a handful of "new" shows a try last fall, Person Of Interest and New Girl are renewed, Alacatraz isn't. That's all I invested any time in. Still happy I don't have "click-click-click" channel surfing ability, so way less of a timesink than if I actually had cable.
But just like films I'm only interested in shows that seem to be offering an engaging character-driven experience that I can go along for the ride on, not just popcorn fluff that gives a paycheck to Jeffrey Tambor or Anne Heche. So, no conflict in me pre-judging the soon-coming NBC potential failures ;)
Y'know it's kinda funny but I've never used tv like that, my dad is a channel surfer but I've always targeted something. Not to say I haven't channel surfed ever (that's how I inadvertently discovered Little Britain), it's just not the norm, so I rarely see it as a problem I guess.
I guess when I get bored though the patterns are the same no matter the tech, can't concentrate on one thing so open a thousand browser tabs, shuffle songs every 2 minutes, etc...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 23, 2012, 04:23:23 PM
I guess when I get bored though the patterns are the same no matter the tech, can't concentrate on one thing so open a thousand browser tabs
Like right now? :)
I used to get stuck watching TV and channel-surfing (especially waiting until midnight for The Daily Show). Now I get stuck digging holes and designing railroad stations. Same basic behaviour, different medium. Neither help make the world better, both are intended only to entertain me.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 23, 2012, 04:23:23 PM
Y'know it's kinda funny but I've never used tv like that, my dad is a channel surfer but I've always targeted something. Not to say I haven't channel surfed ever (that's how I inadvertently discovered Little Britain), it's just not the norm, so I rarely see it as a problem I guess.
I guess when I get bored though the patterns are the same no matter the tech, can't concentrate on one thing so open a thousand browser tabs, shuffle songs every 2 minutes, etc...
In theory with PVRs I could also not be "that guy" anymore. Cuz it's commercials that would get me, even if I muted them (and laughed at how stupid most of them were without the manipulated musical score and idiotic voiceovers) I would soon find a second channel to flip back-and-forth between (sometimes a Discovery or TLC show, maybe so I could justify this ADD behavior with "but I iz learningating stuff!") ... with internet TV streaming I do exactly what you do Mr. Analog, I choose the show, watch an episode (or three) then close the Chrome window, and return to normal RL responsibilities. "TV the way it's meant to be" ;)
I doubt I'd have the same self-restraint with a big-hard-drive PVR though ::)
Quote from: Thorin on May 23, 2012, 04:27:42 PM
Neither help make the world better, both are intended only to entertain me.
which is
perfectly fine. in moderation. I keep reminding myself... Getting better over the years though -- I am certainly not jumping on board every "new" show or whatnot, most definitely NOT a typical consumer target demographic now (nor was I ever).
My recently-viewed shows have been older ones that I downloaded - Tour Of Duty, Space: Above & Beyond, stuff like that. Although I've just been less interested in tv as there's too much advertisement on it and I'm just not interested in letting myself get bombarded by all those ads.
I'm finding now that I'm getting further away from depression I can concentrate more, like I can sit for hours playing a game or doing some art without tabbing out and distracting myself.
Same with TV, I actually watch some shows when they air (weird, I know)
The whole self-distraction thing is like a crutch, "well I didn't finish this kick-awesome art because I tabbed out and farted around for 2 hours" but really what's happening is: "I feel totally self conscious/anxious/depressed so I need an excuse for why this (activity) is giving me no joy"
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 23, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
it's commercials that would get me, even if I muted them (and laughed at how stupid most of them were without the manipulated musical score and idiotic voiceovers) I would soon find a second channel to flip back-and-forth between
Quote from: Thorin on May 23, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
I've just been less interested in tv as there's too much advertisement on it and I'm just not interested in letting myself get bombarded by all those ads.
Looks like we agree on something.
I think they should go back to the old school format where you got an actual 22+ minutes of show
I also hate how a show starts coming to a close and the commercial frequency increases. This is why people don't watch tv, it's ANNOYING as hell
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 23, 2012, 04:39:58 PM
I also hate how a show starts coming to a close and the commercial frequency increases. This is why people don't watch tv, it's ANNOYING as hell
This is exactly why I love couchtuner -- unlike other streaming sites, almost every feed is virtually instant without even a 54321 countdown and then an extra click, and 90% of the time a fullscreen viewing is equal (or even better) than normal non-HD tv viewing of my past years, all without any commercial interruptions... like Netflix, but with decent selection :) ... and like you pointed out, often the >60 minutes "screen"watching is revealing of something not being addressed in the heart or mind. We're all growing up and realizing that RL is actually pretty damn AWESOME compared to the bube toob. What "really matters" really is what matters ;D
We're growing up?
I put things into two camps:
-Reality
-Escape
I don't watch TV to connect with reality, and reality isn't always what I fantasize about. It's OKAY to LIKE television or books or video games or whatever, balance it out however you feel.
Personally, I hate the phrase "what really matters" because it implies some things you do or think are frivolous, everything you do has some level of importance. Not all time spent has to be rationalized.
imo "what really matters" is honesty -- starting with "honesty with self"; I find that now that I've given myself permission to be "real" in that respect, and thus more real with other living human beings around me, I also get "more" out of the pure-escape stuff, a stirring of the emotions, a greater understanding of myself and others, that sort of thing. Not to knock "escape" stuff, I think as you are young you enjoy it just for what it is, as you get older you see all sorts of interconnectedness all over the place and get an extra level of enjoyment out of it too -- but *extra*, the simple pleasure is there too, it's not replaced with curmudgeonesque "wisdom" or something. Sorry for the stream-o-consciousness, it's bedtime for me now and I'm kinda brainfoggy.
See honesty I can understand, "what really matters" is somewhat condescending, just like implying one enjoys entertainment at a higher level than others *cough* ;)
I do admit though, half of the fun of any escapist work is seeing the reflection of the times, how it captures the zeitgeist or at the very least the "feeling". Sometimes television really clicks with a certain time and place (a la Star Trek).
Then there's just plain old nostalgia, which honestly when I watch something like Red Dwarf I'm 14 again and I remember what that time was like.
Anyway, back on track, it's easy to forget all the crap shows that came out, so this new crop of crap will sail through unnoticed for the most part until something decent shows up. And who knows, maybe one of these is an unexpected winner in hiding. I know I didn't watch Seinfeld until season 2 or so...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 06:55:00 AM
I do admit though, half of the fun of any escapist work is seeing the reflection of the times, how it captures the zeitgeist or at the very least the "feeling". Sometimes television really clicks with a certain time and place (a la Star Trek).
Then there's just plain old nostalgia, which honestly when I watch something like Red Dwarf I'm 14 again and I remember what that time was like.
see, even though you're a bit geek-tastic when wearing your Analysis Hat (another life = Film Studies major?) but with the "14 again" comment you just confirmed that deep down inside you know that TV IS MAGIC! imo not much different than where I am at when it comes to entertainment, I just expressed it more snootily (as my brother would say, "Huffington Post - like") ... so sorry about that.
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
WhaaaAAA?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
WhaaaAAA?
I was never a big fan. It was too inane for me most of the time.
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
WhaaaAAA?
I was never a big fan. It was too inane for me most of the time.
That's what I liked about it, life is very often a rich tapestry of inane occurrences. hah
Different strokes for different folks, "Friends" was a popular sitcom in the 90s and other than Jennifer Aniston I had no interest in it at all lol
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
WhaaaAAA?
I was never a big fan. It was too inane for me most of the time.
That's what I liked about it, life is very often a rich tapestry of inane occurrences. hah
Different strokes for different folks, "Friends" was a popular sitcom in the 90s and other than Jennifer Aniston I had no interest in it at all lol
My problem with it was mostly the incredibly awkward "slap-stick" or "embarrassing" moments. I'm rather empathetic, so I start (strongly) feeling what various characters might be... It has a profound effect. To the point that I either have to get up and leave the room (if other people are watching tv) or I just stop watching whatever it is and do something else. It is incredibly hard for me to power though moments like that, and if a show has /a lot/ of them, I just don't watch it.
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
WhaaaAAA?
I was never a big fan. It was too inane for me most of the time.
That's what I liked about it, life is very often a rich tapestry of inane occurrences. hah
Different strokes for different folks, "Friends" was a popular sitcom in the 90s and other than Jennifer Aniston I had no interest in it at all lol
My problem with it was mostly the incredibly awkward "slap-stick" or "embarrassing" moments. I'm rather empathetic, so I start (strongly) feeling what various characters might be... It has a profound effect. To the point that I either have to get up and leave the room (if other people are watching tv) or I just stop watching whatever it is and do something else. It is incredibly hard for me to power though moments like that, and if a show has /a lot/ of them, I just don't watch it.
I just hated Jerry, for the most part I found the other characters funny and entertaining... George and Jerry's parents where also a bit much.
Quote from: Lazybones on May 24, 2012, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:57:48 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Eh no worries, we're all on the same page I think :)
Except for that bit about Seinfeld. :-X
WhaaaAAA?
I was never a big fan. It was too inane for me most of the time.
That's what I liked about it, life is very often a rich tapestry of inane occurrences. hah
Different strokes for different folks, "Friends" was a popular sitcom in the 90s and other than Jennifer Aniston I had no interest in it at all lol
My problem with it was mostly the incredibly awkward "slap-stick" or "embarrassing" moments. I'm rather empathetic, so I start (strongly) feeling what various characters might be... It has a profound effect. To the point that I either have to get up and leave the room (if other people are watching tv) or I just stop watching whatever it is and do something else. It is incredibly hard for me to power though moments like that, and if a show has /a lot/ of them, I just don't watch it.
I just hated Jerry, for the most part I found the other characters funny and entertaining... George and Jerry's parents where also a bit much.
I have to say I liked Kramer.
For me it wasn't the characters in Seinfeld that made me watch the show, it was finding out what simple, common, every day activity they would hold to the light and make fun of this week.
On Topic(ish): I wouldn't mind a network coming up with a surprise good show like Married.. With Children. Although the clothes and hairstyles are outdated, that show's still insanely funny.
Quote from: Thorin on May 24, 2012, 12:44:45 PM
For me it wasn't the characters in Seinfeld that made me watch the show, it was finding out what simple, common, every day activity they would hold to the light and make fun of this week.
On Topic(ish): I wouldn't mind a network coming up with a surprise good show like Married.. With Children. Although the clothes and hairstyles are outdated, that show's still insanely funny.
I think it was a combination of both, like how finding a car in a parkade can become an all day adventure through collective bumbling heh
Quote from: Tom on May 24, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
My problem with it was mostly the incredibly awkward "slap-stick" or "embarrassing" moments. I'm rather empathetic, so I start (strongly) feeling what various characters might be... It has a profound effect. To the point that I either have to get up and leave the room (if other people are watching tv) or I just stop watching whatever it is and do something else. It is incredibly hard for me to power though moments like that, and if a show has /a lot/ of them, I just don't watch it.
Remember he (Jerry) obviously had(has?) a huge Superman fetish ... which maybe explains why pretty quickly the whole Seinfeld universe became pretty comicbook-y ; characters and character traits that everyone can relate to in slightly ridic situations, except amplified/exaggerated to just beyond the point of recognition (but not too far to the point of being the surreal level of Married With Children or The Young Ones ;) ) imo the most enjoyable episodes had 2 key elements: 3 or 4 sub-stories that collided or merged in the end in some HOLY CRAP way, and 1 or 2 awesome standout secondary characters *key to the plot* (especially funny to see so many Big Name faces appearing and looking so young, from Bryan Cranston to James Spader etc.) <-- That's why the Final Episode had so many of them re-appear "in court", it was like a reward to audience members who who had been there the entire series.
in brief: the "Seinfeld Four" are all unlikeable in various ways, flawed and suffering foot-in-mouth disease ... and yet we can't help but to empathize with so much of what they feel and say. Curb Your Enthusiasm is like that, cranked to 11, concentrated in just Larry David (and in later season, Leon as well).
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 24, 2012, 12:47:48 PM
Quote from: Thorin on May 24, 2012, 12:44:45 PM
For me it wasn't the characters in Seinfeld that made me watch the show, it was finding out what simple, common, every day activity they would hold to the light and make fun of this week.
On Topic(ish): I wouldn't mind a network coming up with a surprise good show like Married.. With Children. Although the clothes and hairstyles are outdated, that show's still insanely funny.
I think it was a combination of both, like how finding a car in a parkade can become an all day adventure through collective bumbling heh
Season 1 for sure, seasons 2 and 3 at times, after that it was more character-driven and insane-situation multi-story-driven, instead of Real Life Annoyances observations imo.
You know, for some people Married.. With Children and Trailer Park Boys were not so much surreal as uncomfortably-close-to-home. Maybe you had a better childhood than some :)
Quote from: Thorin on May 24, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
You know, for some people Married.. With Children and Trailer Park Boys were not so much surreal as uncomfortably-close-to-home.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eB3qzd-LuRs/T2IjVhGMOlI/AAAAAAAAAwk/K_yqGcRerR4/s1600/awkward.png)
(bonus pun (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/326/e/b/an_awkward_silence_by_spune-d4gyjw1.jpg)!)
Hulu, Netflix US, Spotify, etc. in Canada (http://support.unotelly.com/customer/portal/articles/297124-what-is-unodns-)? A solution born out of the frustration of a Canadian who didn't like how the Canadian "version" of Netflix was pretty much "US Netflix LITE":
http://www.unotelly.com/unodns/whatisunodns