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Title: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 07, 2012, 04:51:31 PM
Anyone following the Olympics this year?  I've been out camping without internet so didn't keep up to date.  I hear Canada's at 10 or 11 medals (only 1 gold) and that some badmintonners got expelled...
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Mr. Analog on August 08, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Meh, lots of bad officiating this year IMO

I've been keeping up with womens volleyball though ...
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Darren Dirt on August 08, 2012, 12:26:44 PM
couldn't for the life of me get even one into the net...

http://www.google.com/doodles/basketball-2012

Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on August 08, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Meh, lots of bad officiating this year IMO

I've been keeping up with womens volleyball though ...

Beach or court?  If beach, US vs US for the gold, lets see if May-Treanor and Walsh (err...  Walsh Jennings now?) can get a third Olympic gold.
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Mr. Analog on August 08, 2012, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on August 08, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Meh, lots of bad officiating this year IMO

I've been keeping up with womens volleyball though ...

Beach or court?  If beach, US vs US for the gold, lets see if May-Treanor and Walsh (err...  Walsh Jennings now?) can get a third Olympic gold.

Both actually!

But yeah, beach is more fun for some reason ;)
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Bathing suits are the official uniform for beach volleyball.  Some secular muslim countries wanted to compete but complained the uniforms were too revealing.  Bodysuits are now allowed.

Which is a good thing, because it was rainy and frickin' cold in London.
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Lazybones on August 08, 2012, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Bathing suits are the official uniform for beach volleyball.  Some secular muslim countries wanted to compete but complained the uniforms were too revealing.  Bodysuits are now allowed.

Which is a good thing, because it was rainy and frickin' cold in London.

Actually the women in general wanted the option for body suits for a long time due to out door weather issues from what I was reading... The Olympics also used to require skirts women for things like tennis etc. It has more to do with out dated gender enforcement.  The only religious issue I know of is the head covering for judo.
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Darren Dirt on August 08, 2012, 05:00:07 PM
in other sporting news... Bolt the Blur*!
http://twitter.com/JeffDLowe/status/232219092134801408/photo/1/large
(http://p.twimg.com/AzkCCLECMAAwh7C.png)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt#2012_Summer_Olympics




*according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt#Average_speed), that blur is a result of hitting his top speed of "44.72 km/h or 27.78 miles per hour". Zoom zoom zoom!
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
Well they could've moved the camera with the shot and then the background would blur while he stays in focus...
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Lazybones on August 08, 2012, 11:08:37 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/05/sports/olympics/the-100-meter-dash-one-race-every-medalist-ever.html

Interesting illustration, near the end shows that some very young and collage athletes already beat many past gold medal winners... However at the end they also point out that the spread is only 3 seconds.

Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 11:30:09 PM
Neat find, Lazy.  Weird how they just keep getting faster and faster and faster.
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Darren Dirt on August 09, 2012, 01:20:44 AM
Quote from: Thorin on August 08, 2012, 11:30:09 PM
Neat find, Lazy.  Weird how they just keep getting faster and faster and faster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_100_metres_world_record_progression
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/World_record_progression_100m_men.svg)
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 09, 2012, 11:13:37 AM
Weird, what with all the summer olympics on, my wife found a hockey game to watch / listen to (Canada vs Russia Challenge 2012?).

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/challenge
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 09, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
Meta-gaming at its finest: http://youtu.be/BkkTSVVrPYk (Men's Cycling Sprint where one rider tries to force the other in front so as to draft right behind him)

No, this video is not an Olympics video, but it was found thanks to Penny Arcade's short discussion of Men's Sprint (where they did provide a link to Men's Sprint from this year's Olympics).
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Darren Dirt on August 09, 2012, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Thorin on August 09, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
Meta-gaming at its finest: http://youtu.be/BkkTSVVrPYk (Men's Cycling Sprint where one rider tries to force the other in front so as to draft right behind him)

No, this video is not an Olympics video, but it was found thanks to Penny Arcade's short discussion of Men's Sprint (where they did provide a link to Men's Sprint from this year's Olympics).

"This should be narrated by David Attenborough." lol so true!

and btw WOW at the end = 65km/h ... Usain Bolt + 20ish, that's it?

Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 09, 2012, 03:16:50 PM
The bicycles only have one gear so your feet have to go around incredibly fast at high speeds; also, the faster you go the more wind resistance there is (to figure that out one needs to look at the drag equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_equation), which in turn will require looking at the drag coefficient (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_coefficient#Drag_coefficient_cd_examples)).  All I can say is that between only having one gear and having wind resistance, I'm sure 65km/h is pretty damn fast.  Fast enough to get a photo radar ticket in a residential zone.

Speed records set on bicycles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_records#Speed_record_on_a_bicycle.  Note that the 133km/h was on a lean-back style bike with an aerodynamic body added on and probably 20+ gears, and the 268km/h was done while riding behind a motorized vehicle that broke the air, thus removing wind resistance.
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Darren Dirt on August 09, 2012, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Thorin on August 09, 2012, 03:16:50 PM
The bicycles only have one gear so your feet have to go around incredibly fast at high speeds

Yeah, I remember back in Junior High (or maybe it was Elementary) where we visited the Argyll Velodrome (https://www.google.com/search?q=Argyll+Velodrome), I still remember to this day it was so weird to ride a bike where you can't "coast", the pedals kept moving even when you stopped applying muscle power, so you just pedalled until you wanted to stop moving then you pretty much had to lift your feet up and ride around (careful not to bruise your shins by the pedals now moving "on their own") until the tiny bit of friction slowed you down (since there's no brakes).


but yes as you pointed out that is "over the speed limit" on most Edmonton roads other than freeways and Yellowhead/St. Albert Trail ... so it's not exactly a crawl. I was just surprised that 65km/hr is what they top out at, when a human being WITHOUT the assistance of a wheel = 45!
Title: Re: Olympics...
Post by: Thorin on August 09, 2012, 05:00:55 PM
Yeah, I remember the Velodrome.  I almost started doing track-cycling as I was riding bikes everywhere anyway.  But it cost money to start, and we were not rich.

Imagine how fast their legs have to move to be able to go 65km/h!  Also, completely stalling out a bike on a 42 degree incline...  That's pretty amazing.