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Title: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Darren Dirt on February 15, 2013, 01:23:01 PM
meanwhile, in a galaxy NOT so far, far away...

http://www.google.com/search?q=DA14+15+February+2013&tbm=nws




its [predicted] distance was... pretty damn close:
(http://nvonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/asteriod.jpeg)


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/asteroid-2012-da14-google-doodle-1711286



was about an hour ago apparently, and very few could see it live: http://earthsky.org/space/who-will-see-the-february-15-asteroid-flyby
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Tom on February 15, 2013, 01:51:53 PM
It wasn't /that/ close. Sure it was inside the orbit of geo-sync satellites, but meh, it wasn't near close enough to hit.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Thorin on February 15, 2013, 01:54:25 PM
Yup, and then separately a meteorite struck the Earth in Russia, in the Ural mountains: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/02/15/russia-meteorite.html.  Apparently they were not connected.

Fun fact: it's a meteoroid while in the sky and a meteorite once it hits the ground, while "meteor" describes the light show it produces.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Tom on February 15, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
So what's a metroid?



8)
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on February 15, 2013, 09:16:26 PM
Something you don't let Samus Aran near (she tends to mush them up)
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Tom on February 15, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/SnVvLv8.gif)
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on February 15, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
The interesting thing about this story is two-fold:
-Meteorites hit the earth every day so when it actually intersects with a populated area it's news (think about it!)
-Bad Russian driving lead to some amazing video of this event.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Tom on February 15, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 15, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
The interesting thing about this story is two-fold:
-Meteorites hit the earth every day so when it actually intersects with a populated area it's news (think about it!)
-Bad Russian driving lead to some amazing video of this event.
I think a third point:
-Meteorites of that size hitting the earth in a populated area shortly after a near miss is fairly rare
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Thorin on February 15, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Yeah, good thing those Russians can't drive and are all corrupt, otherwise we'd have to rely on the North American media to get footage of it, and I doubt they'd bother.  Or they'd try to blame it on Obama / the Repubs.

1,100 or so people have been wounded by flying glass, most of them not seriously, though.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on February 16, 2013, 07:29:57 AM
Quote from: Thorin on February 15, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Yeah, good thing those Russians can't drive and are all corrupt, otherwise we'd have to rely on the North American media to get footage of it, and I doubt they'd bother.  Or they'd try to blame it on Obama / the Repubs.

1,100 or so people have been wounded by flying glass, most of them not seriously, though.

Whoah coach must have been tired last night :-)

The best videos all came from "dash cams" which really isn't a thing here (though i guess here it would have been cell phone cams)

And as the dazzling meteor display we had here in 2008 showed the media was plenty interested even though it didn't kill anyone.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Lazybones on February 16, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
Ya dash cams also appear to be a thin in Asia as well. Deal extream carries them.

HD sports cams for skiing and mountain biking are semi popular in North America
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Lazybones on February 16, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on February 16, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
Ya dash cams also appear to be a thing in Asia as well. Deal extream carries them.

HD sports cams for skiing and mountain biking are semi popular in North America
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Lazybones on February 16, 2013, 02:35:34 PM
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/

So the main reason isn't showing off on line it is the fact russa has lots of corruption and double the accident rate of the US making them nessary to cover your ass in an accident. 
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Thorin on February 16, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 16, 2013, 07:29:57 AM
Quote from: Thorin on February 15, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Yeah, good thing those Russians can't drive and are all corrupt, otherwise we'd have to rely on the North American media to get footage of it, and I doubt they'd bother.  Or they'd try to blame it on Obama / the Repubs.

Whoah coach must have been tired last night :-)

The best videos all came from "dash cams" which really isn't a thing here (though i guess here it would have been cell phone cams)

And as the dazzling meteor display we had here in 2008 showed the media was plenty interested even though it didn't kill anyone.

Hmm, that I was last night, too many late nights 'n all.  Re-reading my post, it doesn't carry the same tone as what I intended to say - that is, that it's dash cams that caught the best displays and that dash cams are popular in Russia due to people trying to protect themselves from both bad driving and corrupt police officers.

As for the 2008 meteor shower (almost typed "meteor swarm", was just reading a D&D article), I don't remember it getting a huge amount of press.

Quote from: Lazybones on February 16, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
HD sports cams for skiing and mountain biking are semi popular in North America

The GoPro cam is the most popular product for high-def sports videos; it's to the point that people in extreme sports talk about their GoPro instead of their HD cam.  Just like we call them Band-Aids, even though they are Self-Adhesive Bandages.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Darren Dirt on February 19, 2013, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: Tom on February 15, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
So what's a metroid?



8)


The eponymous in-game Metroids (メトロイド?) are large jellyfish-like creatures with tripartite nuclei. - Wik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_in_the_Metroid_series#Metroids) (see also: Google images search results (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=active&tbo=d&biw=1460&bih=947&tbs=simg:CAESWQlDtJZMy2p5bxpFCxCwjKcIGjwKOggBEhSSApkClwLmBO4B8QGUAuUE6wHEARogp6YpORpEBCiaemWYuPxIl3q6py-R0_1UY-Hapb5mKmIcMISwSTcDdTZAt&q=metroid&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=pLIjUbCDHoSvygHJ-ICYBQ&ved=0CDsQsw4) )

Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Darren Dirt on February 19, 2013, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: Thorin on February 16, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 16, 2013, 07:29:57 AM
Quote from: Thorin on February 15, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
Yeah, good thing those Russians can't drive and are all corrupt, otherwise we'd have to rely on the North American media to get footage of it, and I doubt they'd bother.  Or they'd try to blame it on Obama / the Repubs.

Whoah coach must have been tired last night :-)

The best videos all came from "dash cams" which really isn't a thing here (though i guess here it would have been cell phone cams)

And as the dazzling meteor display we had here in 2008 showed the media was plenty interested even though it didn't kill anyone.

Hmm, that I was last night, too many late nights 'n all.  Re-reading my post, it doesn't carry the same tone as what I intended to say - that is, that it's dash cams that caught the best displays and that dash cams are popular in Russia due to people trying to protect themselves from both bad driving and corrupt police officers.

yikes!

Quote from: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/02/russian-dash-cams/
Russian drivers are accident prone. With 35,972 road deaths in 2007 (the latest stats available from the World Health Organization), Russia averages 25.2 traffic fatalities per 100,000 people. The U.S., by comparison, had 13.9 road deaths per 100,000 people in the same year, despite having six times more cars.
:o



PS: http://io9.com/5985276/incredible-details-are-emerging-about-russias-chelyabinsk-meteor
apparently 2012DA14 = 150 feet across (45 meters), you'd think that since it was being tracked it musta been way beigger than the Chelyabinsk asteroid, right?

NOPE. 56 feet across (17 meters) jeepers! And to think that the "experts" didn't even KNOW ABOUT the one that streaked across the Russian sky! In fact, Experts Say: "largest since 1908 Tunguska event"

(as time goes on, more horrifying, terrifying, life-altering details will likely show up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Russian_meteor_event )
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Thorin on February 19, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Here's another fun one, that actually travelled over Alberta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Great_Daylight_Fireball.  And it was a little closer to Earth than DA14.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on February 19, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: Thorin on February 19, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Here's another fun one, that actually travelled over Alberta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Great_Daylight_Fireball.  And it was a little closer to Earth than DA14.

Whoa! Tangentially that reminds me I've wanted to read "Rendezvous with Rama" for ages!
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Darren Dirt on February 19, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 19, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
Whoa! Tangentially that reminds me I've wanted to read "Rendezvous with Rama" for ages!

I thought I lent that to you?

I also found at Value Village or somewhere the other 2 books in the unplanned trilogy, the 2nd one is actually pretty good too. In both cases I really felt like I was part of the adventure, going along for the ride with the Rama-nauts. The human ones I mean. Not the ... well I'll shut up now #nospoilersfromme

Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Mr. Analog on February 19, 2013, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on February 19, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on February 19, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
Whoa! Tangentially that reminds me I've wanted to read "Rendezvous with Rama" for ages!

I thought I lent that to you?

I also found at Value Village or somewhere the other 2 books in the unplanned trilogy, the 2nd one is actually pretty good too. In both cases I really felt like I was part of the adventure, going along for the ride with the Rama-nauts. The human ones I mean. Not the ... well I'll shut up now #nospoilersfromme

Maybe you did and my brain erased it, I'll download an eBook version maybe it will come back.

The hardest part of dealing with sleep apnea fallout is addressing memory loss, can't remember what you can't remember :/
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Darren Dirt on February 19, 2013, 11:38:23 AM
Whether or not you've already read it, it's worth re-reading anyway imo. Normally I'm not much of a fan of The Author's slow pacing, but it totally worked in Rama for building tension and immersing me in the world of the story. In fact, a part of me would hate to see a film version, just cuz it could never do it justice, in terms of scale and emotional impact as the mystery unfolds.

Although here in modern times I can actually imagine the technology allowing for it to be done well, at least the visuals. But it'll all come down to the quality of story/character http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134933/ (but it's been in DH for over a decade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_with_Rama#Adaptations), so maybe it not coming out yet = a good thing?)
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Lazybones on February 19, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
http://osm2.cartodb.com/tables/2320/public#/map

Map of all known impacts.
Title: Re: whew! (DA14 asteroid didn't hit us!)
Post by: Thorin on February 19, 2013, 05:44:04 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on February 19, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
http://osm2.cartodb.com/tables/2320/public#/map

Map of all known impacts.

Nice find...