Don't forget about the DST change Tomorrow

Mr. Analog · November 04, 2011, 01:28:21 PM

DST change on Saturday night, time to fall back again

Lazybones · November 04, 2011, 01:45:42 PM

I hate DST... lets stick to one time. I hated it when I did shift work and I still hate it with standard hours... it is pointless from my perspective.

Mr. Analog · November 04, 2011, 01:47:38 PM

I agree, but if we all switch away from it would Saskatchewan have to start using it? LOL

Lazybones · November 04, 2011, 02:48:44 PM

What bugs me the most is people that claim it gives you X hours more daylight, especially in the evening...

Given that I don't get home till between 5-6pm the time shift only makes a difference for about the first week or two then the days too short for it to matter and its dark on the way in and dark on the way home regardless of the 1 hour... In the spring it is about the same, you really hardly gain much as the rate of day lengthening gets to the point where you are pushing daylight past 9PM when you don't want it and the sun is coming up before most people accept really early commuters get up.

A meager benefit a the start and stop of they arbitrary times of year seems insane... Turning off daylight savings time would probably be far less costly than changing the days because so many systems have it as an OPTION already, but then again if everyone didn't do it you would still need to keep updating the existing tables for those places.

Mr. Analog · November 04, 2011, 03:08:26 PM

The papers containing the beneficial claims that eventually lead to its use were made over a 100 years ago, pre-dating widespread electric light use (1890s).

According to Wikipeds; the first countries to use DST were Germany and her allies during the latter days of WWI to conserve coal (apparently)

Thorin · November 04, 2011, 03:40:18 PM

Uh, DST is not meant to lengthen the light in winter evenings; DST gives us extra light in the evening during the summer by having us get up closer to sunrise (thus wasting less morning light). And I disagree with you - I like that it's light or twilight until 11 at night during the summer, when we're much more likely to be out enjoying the weather. Nonetheless, I agree that things would be much simpler if we got rid of DST and it's clock-adjusting.

Mr. Analog · November 04, 2011, 03:47:38 PM

Personally speaking I just wish we operated under DST all year 'round.

I dunno, maybe it matters at lower latitudes that don't quite get the same long days we do.

Darren Dirt · November 04, 2011, 04:33:13 PM

meh, we could all just move to close to the equator -- 6am sunrise and 6pm sunset, all year round.

Mr. Analog · November 04, 2011, 04:35:16 PM

There's also like no transition either, here we have twilight for pretty long stretches, elsewhere not so much. It's like BAM night time or BAM sun in yo' face

Lazybones · November 04, 2011, 04:45:51 PM

Quote from: Thorin on November 04, 2011, 03:40:18 PM
Uh, DST is not meant to lengthen the light in winter evenings; DST gives us extra light in the evening during the summer by having us get up closer to sunrise (thus wasting less morning light). And I disagree with you - I like that it's light or twilight until 11 at night during the summer, when we're much more likely to be out enjoying the weather. Nonetheless, I agree that things would be much simpler if we got rid of DST and it's clock-adjusting.

O I understand that, I was just referring to the impact of shifting it back.
Also it is only 1 hour, twilight till 10 would be plenty, would it not?

For those of use maintaining many systems it causes issues with all sorts o things from logging to authentication when you have legacy systems that have old date tables or get bad or incomplete updates when a new date is picked for a region.

Thorin · November 04, 2011, 05:17:42 PM

The majority of the world never or no longer observes Daylight Savings Time. The gross majority of North America still does, though.

But would you get up earlier to take advantage of early daylight, or just draw the curtains to keep the light out?

Mr. Analog · November 04, 2011, 11:27:23 PM

Quote from: Thorin on November 04, 2011, 05:17:42 PM
The majority of the world never or no longer observes Daylight Savings Time. The gross majority of North America still does, though.

But would you get up earlier to take advantage of early daylight, or just draw the curtains to keep the light out?

I already do! To quote Ben Franklin: early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.

Except tonight

And probably tomorrow night

CURSE YOU BEN FRANKLIN!

Lazybones · November 05, 2011, 01:06:07 AM

Quote from: Thorin on November 04, 2011, 05:17:42 PM
But would you get up earlier to take advantage of early daylight, or just draw the curtains to keep the light out?

you are asking someone with a diagnosed sleeping problem. I already try to block out my windows to optimize what little sleep I get.

Darren Dirt · November 06, 2011, 01:28:14 AM

Quote from: Mr. Analog on November 04, 2011, 11:27:23 PM
CURSE YOU BEN FRANKLIN!

Actually it was G V Hudson (stained-glass window designer and insect-collector(!)) who gets "credit" for the concept of DST

Mr. Analog · November 07, 2011, 08:59:32 AM

Umm yeah, I know, we both read the same wikipedia article, but Ben is the one responsible for that quote that every dad ever since has said at least once to a kid.

Personally I didn't much notice the DST as I ended up finishing LA Noire on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

Once you start you just can't stop... apparently there is DLC as well AUGH

It's sad that Team Bondi imploded/collapsed...