A glimps into my life

[Mr. Analog]

 My understanding of water cooling (limited) is that the tank is where the cooling occurs, it has a large surface area made of a conductive material (lucite, copper, etc). I would think that the larger the tank the faster the heat dissipates, since the heat has to be spread among more water molocules.

I haven't really seen a whole lot of different cooling tank types but why don't they make more that have more fins to radiate the heat better?

[Shayne]

 Wouldnt the radiator do like the cooling as it like does the cooling in a car and stuff...and the water passes through it ... and a fan blows on it...and its like a radiator for like radiating heat?

[Lazybones]

 I think Cova had a cooling system that only used a section of tube for the resevoir, its the radiator that does all of the cooling..

Melbosa can probably contact Cova about that.

As for the case I love that modle, the only other one I was considering was the Thermaltake VA8000SWA Armor Super Tower, Silver Aluminum but its much more expensive.

[Fedora Gal]

 lol Shayne

I think what Mr. A is refering too are the kits he's probably seen where the rad and tank are combined into one (the watercooling for dummies kits I call em). You know the ones where all you have to do is run the hoses to the water blocks and plug it in and your done cause the rad, resevoir, fans, pump and controllers are all located in one bay.

The one that I have for clarification has a seperate radiator which mounts to a 120mm fan, for the cooling of the water, the resevoir is just a tank full of water (overflow), water pump, waterblocks (for on cpu and chipset) and of course the tubing all seperate. It takes up more room that the 'kit' version but tends to cool better because of the large rad and pump with a higher flow rate.

As for the case I love that modle, the only other one I was considering was the Thermaltake VA8000SWA Armor Super Tower, Silver Aluminum but its much more expensive.

That was my very first choice for case other than the Dream (when I started looking 3 months ago), but it widdled down to price in the end.  

[Mr. Analog]

As for the case I love that modle, the only other one I was considering was the Thermaltake VA8000SWA Armor Super Tower, Silver Aluminum but its much more expensive.

Ahh, nothing beats this case...

I'm pretty sure the amount of water in the system is important and that the resovoir is a major part of the heat dispersion process, then again I'm just thinking from a sciencey perspective only...

[Shayne]

 Whats the need for a huge case?  Nice to have the drives, but a 300GB drive and a 40GB drive take up the same amount of space.

[Mr. Analog]

Whats the need for a huge case?  Nice to have the drives, but a 300GB drive and a 40GB drive take up the same amount of space.

!?!

• Easy to work with
• Room for large RAID array
• Less cable cramping
• More airflow

[Shayne]

!?!

• Easy to work with
• Room for large RAID array
• Less cable cramping
• More airflow

All of which can be solved with SATA.  I have 4 drives in my PC, all SATA, and i have basically no wires visiable.  (beyond the lames ass rounded cable for the dvd burner).

meh.  i'll take a well built small aluminum anyday.

[Mr. Analog]

 For now I'll still need a large server tower for my RAID 7 (well, one day, one day...)

[Melbosa]

 This RAID 7?  Wow you gots money.  Me I'll just stick with my RAID 5 for now, which fights nicely into my Antec Soho 21" hehe.

[Shayne]

This RAID 7?  Wow you gots money.  Me I'll just stick with my RAID 5 for now, which fights nicely into my Antec Soho 21" hehe.

A buddy of mine tried RAID5 but it was always rebuilding itself.  Like ALWAYS.  Probably an issue with one of the drives though.

I run RAID 0 for OS and Games, and the 2 other for storage.

[Melbosa]

This RAID 7?  Wow you gots money.  Me I'll just stick with my RAID 5 for now, which fights nicely into my Antec Soho 21" hehe.

A buddy of mine tried RAID5 but it was always rebuilding itself.  Like ALWAYS.  Probably an issue with one of the drives though.

I run RAID 0 for OS and Games, and the 2 other for storage.

My RAID 5 seems to work fine.  I would guess would be a drive issue or hardware controller issue.  Its the one in my file server.

I too run RAID 0 in my workstation as well.

[Lazybones]

Whats the need for a huge case?  Nice to have the drives, but a 300GB drive and a 40GB drive take up the same amount of space.

Even though it is larger its lighter than the Dream..

As for harddrives if you are building in any type of large capacity RAID you need space for a minimum of 3 drives to do a RAID 5. If you are going to go raid 5 you better do it with a REAL raid controller card not software or CPU dependent halfway chipsets.

Melbosa will tell you that once you get more than 3 drives in there, air flow and temp become a problem. so the Armor is a great case, because of how the drives are spaced.

At any rate the Dream is a great case, even if it can't take a Puralator beating..

[Fedora Gal]

 UPDATE:

So I speak with Purolator over the phone about a cryptic message saying that because I am claiming for a computer and not computer parts as I had listed on my packing slip (apparently a non-working computer is still a computer and not computer parts, as I believe) I need to send an original purchase reciept and get a repair estimate done. I naturally tell them that as this was a custom built machine I do not have one purchase reciept but many and summarily fax them over to them. They then tell me that computer printed reciepts will not be accepted, so I inform them that since I purchased the majority of my parts over the internet all I have is computer reciepts, and that because no one had told me I would need a repair estimate I had already had the machine dismantled and had all the parts tested so I could have my new machine built.
Purolator informs me that I have two options, they pay me the $1,000 but they want my computer for salvage parts. Well that's not gonna fly the machine is worth a total of $1,700 and there are about $400 of working parts, like I'm gonna do that. Or I get a repair estimate done by a computer shop. Fine I agree to get the repair estimate, and leave the phone conversation in full confidence that my reciepts will now be accepted.

So I go to Frag, arrange for the estimate while I am there and when I get home I find a letter waiting for me from Purolator.
This letter says that I still need original purchase reciepts and get this 2 repair estimates!!!! WTH
First they never tell me I need a repair estimate, then they say I do....but only one and now they're saying they need two! What total BS!
And on top of that they did not reachy my deadline of July 20th (the day I needed my new computer) and now they tell me that I have to have this information to them by Aug. 8th or they are dropping my case file!

So now I have to phone and yell, and I hate yelling!

[Darren Dirt]

 The sad thing is, prolly was company policy, not just the unique actions of the drone on the phone. Good luck, your patience is obviously being tested here. I guess that's one company to cross of the list of potentials to consider when shipping PC hardware...  :huh: