HNIC Theme to be dropped aka "The day the music died "

Started by Mr. Analog, June 05, 2008, 12:54:15 PM

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QuoteTORONTO -- The famous Hockey Night in Canada theme that has introduced thousands of great games over the years may not be heard again when the puck drops next season.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/06/05/cbc_hockey_theme/

I am stunned, it was bad enough when they did the rearrangement in the 80s and then again in the 90s. This is a crazy, stupid, committee cluster-@%&# decision.
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from http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/05/hockeysong.html

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'I think it would be foolish of the CBC not to bring back that theme. It is, at this time, probably the most recognizable theme in all of Canada. '

--Rob Griff

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true dat!




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The CBC "has advised the composer, owner and administrator of the musical composition that it is not prepared to enter into a new licence agreement with respect to the use of the theme," the release says.

...Copyright Music & Visuals says it had offered the CBC a chance to renew its licence to use her song on terms that were "virtually identical to those that have existed for the past decade." Each use of the song in the past has cost the broadcaster about $500, the company says.

cheap bastards!

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Quote from: Melbosa on June 05, 2008, 01:09:48 PM
A sad day yesterday was then, as sad day indeed!

Why? How much $$ did you have riding on Crosby & Co.?
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Quote from: Melbosa on June 05, 2008, 02:41:54 PM
No money, just wanted PP to go to 7 games.

I'm surprised they made it past 4... the Penguins were just not ready for playoffs... :(
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Well, the intense action in games 5 and 6 made it *feel* like a full series ;)
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Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 06, 2008, 09:44:28 AM
Well, the intense action in games 5 and 6 made it *feel* like a full series ;)


I dunno, the Penguins played hard but didn't get too far...

Sorta like a caveman doing differential equations, they made a good effort but they had no hope of succeeding.

P.S. Detroit fan here :P
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Mr. Analog

Well, CTV owns it now:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=240196&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_nhl

QuoteCTV Inc., together with Copyright Music & Visuals, today announced that CTV Inc. has acquired all rights to 'The Hockey Theme' in perpetuity, preserving the song's legacy and ensuring it will be heard on national television for years to come. 'The Hockey Theme' song will now live on CTV Inc. properties TSN, RDS and across Canada on CTV during coverage of the upcoming Vancouver 2010 Olympics as outlined below.
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Tom

The CBC has just shot itself in the foot. Hah. Not only don't they have the full rights to NHL broadcasts, they lost the theme song forever! Now theres nothing really to keep people from trying to get a away from Cherry.
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Quote from: Tom on June 09, 2008, 04:27:32 PM
The CBC has just shot itself in the foot. Hah. Not only don't they have the full rights to NHL broadcasts, they lost the theme song forever! Now theres nothing really to keep people from trying to get a away from Cherry.

What pisses me off is that CB-frickin-C couldn't even get off their asses and make sure the CANADIAN customers of crApple's iTunes store would get the CBC VERSION of the Cup games... My son had a few bucks left over on his $20 card so I pointed out the Stanley Cup icon, noticed the finals were $1.99 per game, and game #5 was 3.5 hours for the same price (with all dem OTs) so he grabbed it. 4GB download or something, we start to watch it, I notice a...

...wait for it...


*NBC* logo in the corner.


And here I was suggesting he grab it since it would be one of the last times we could hear the HNIC theme  >:(
Quote from: Darren Dirt on June 06, 2008, 09:44:28 AM
Well, the intense action in games 5 and 6 made it *feel* like a full series ;)

:sigh:



PS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_Night_in_Canada#Theme_music
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In the early evening of June 6 the CBC announced it could not reach an acceptable agreement to renew its license, and would proceed with a contest for a new theme in collaboration with music label Nettwerk, with the winner receiving $100,000 (the CBC would presumably have full ownership of the theme thereafter).

The CBC said it had offered nearly $1 million for perpetual rights to the piece, but that Copyright Music was asking for $2.5 to $3 million for those rights. On June 9, 2008, CTV announced that it had purchased the perpetual rights to the song and would use them for hockey broadcasts on its TSN and RDS sports channels.



Anyone else think that's a raw deal for the New Theme composer, and kinda cheapo that CBC *was* paying $500 a pop before, and turned down a deal that was only triple the small amount they initially were offering Copyright Music?? I mean, 1 bill divided by 500 = 2000 plays of the tune, so 3million is still only 6000 or so... That seems pretty damn reasonable! wp, TSN. gg, CBC -- u loose.
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Whoever the new theme writer ends up as he's gonna lose all the rights to it (as I'm sure CBC will want to retain full ownership).

Yet another CBC cluster@%&#, way to go team!

Is there any way I can opt my tax dollars out of that clown farm?
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Mags

I read today (try and find the link again) that CBC may not be totally at fault here. Apparently they were willing to pay the woman who composed the song a substantial sum, but the woman wanted 40 years of residuals even though that was never in the original contract.

I also think CTV is throwing money away here, since the song and CBC are so intertwined, they come off looking opportunistic and greedy. And probably won't work for them anyways.
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Darren Dirt

The publicized amounts were

$500/usage was the current royalty they had been doing forever
$1million flat buyout was what CBC offered her (them, technically, it was a company representing her)
$2-4million was what they were counter-offering from CBC to accept a buyout

...you gotta wonder if they woulda taken the deal if they knew CTV/TSN was also a potential buyer ;)


PS: never heard about "40 years of residuals", if you have a cited source that would be great... mkay?

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