Deus Ex 3: Human Revolution

[Darren Dirt]

Gamestop fail yet again


http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/report-gamestop-opening-deus-ex-copies-removing-free-game-code.ars

If you purchase your copy of Deus Ex: Human Revolution at a retail store, you're supposed to receive a code that allows you to play the game for free using the online gaming service OnLive. It's a neat giveaway, and it certainly gives gamers an incentive to try the service, but a leaked memo seems to show GameStop's fear of digital delivery: employees are allegedly being asked to open every game and remove the coupon.

http://onlivespot.blogspot.com/2011/08/gamestops-onlive-box-out-hints-at.html

Let's face it, GameStop is and always has been looking out for number one, whether you consider the fact that nearly 50 percent of its gross profit come from used product sales (reminder: publishers see no direct profits from these sales), or the fact that it wants to use its size and influence to sideline digital competitors.

GameStop's acquisition of Stardock's Impulse digital distribution platform means that it is competing head-to-head with services including Valve's 30 million-strong Steam, and its PC and console game streaming strategy (via the Spawn Labs acquisition), is competing -- or rather, will be competing -- with OnLive, and is currently under testing.

This week's Operation: Voucher Freedom will affect GameStop negatively, albeit just for the short term, creating resentment among people who keep up on gaming news (and who already pretty much hate GameStop). It'll blow over rather quickly.

idiot decision by The Suits. But considering the coverage (and "almost universal praise") I'm getting more and more interested in actually jumping back on the game-playing bandwagon...

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/in-defense-of-the-boss-battles-of-deus-ex-human-revolution.ars




"I honestly had more fun with a pure stealth approach in Human Revolution than with the entirety of Splinter Cell: Conviction. It?s heart-skippingly tense, deliciously high-tech and slick to control."
...and that close to clinches it ... watching my son play SC:C so much, saying that about playing the "stealth" path says a LOT!

[Lazybones]

After the box opening news they pulled all copies off the shelf for sale due to the backlash.

[Mr. Analog]

I read about that on /. earlier this week, pretty crazy.

So the question is; does GameStop have to sell those copies as "used"?

[Darren Dirt]

zomg Yahtzee basically LIKED the first DE! http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/4093-Deus-Ex

^ he did the above review ^ in anticipation of reviewing the new game ... and I think it has the lowest "complaints:praises: ratio of any game he's ever covered!


whereas DE:HR ... well, check it out and see.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/4137-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution

[Mr. Analog]

I have it but I still haven't played HR but I know to have fun with it (i.e. make it alive through the "boss" battles) I have to tune up the run n' gun skills.... everything else is secondary, which is kinda disappointing.

[Darren Dirt]

make it alive through the "boss" battles I have to tune up the run n' gun skills.... everything else is secondary, which is kinda disappointing.

I was disappointed to hear that in the Yahtzee review -- it sounds like you might choose to play like "stealth, stealth, stealth, stealth, FPS the @%&# outta the boss, stealth, stealth, stealth, FPS another boss, stealth, stealth..." dang.

[Mr. Analog]

make it alive through the "boss" battles I have to tune up the run n' gun skills.... everything else is secondary, which is kinda disappointing.

I was disappointed to hear that in the Yahtzee review -- it sounds like you might choose to play like "stealth, stealth, stealth, stealth, FPS the @%&# outta the boss, stealth, stealth, stealth, FPS another boss, stealth, stealth..." dang.

Exactly, I'm kinda saddened that there aren't any non-violent ways to resolve conflict.

[Lazybones]

make it alive through the "boss" battles I have to tune up the run n' gun skills.... everything else is secondary, which is kinda disappointing.

I was disappointed to hear that in the Yahtzee review -- it sounds like you might choose to play like "stealth, stealth, stealth, stealth, FPS the @%&# outta the boss, stealth, stealth, stealth, FPS another boss, stealth, stealth..." dang.

Exactly, I'm kinda saddened that there aren't any non-violent ways to resolve conflict.

Everywhere else in the game you have choice but the boss battles... They outsourced the boss battles for some reason.

[Mr. Analog]

Blech, worst idea ever then...

[Darren Dirt]

PAftw

[Darren Dirt]

So you're a fan of the Deus Ex franchise, but especially like playing the stealth/hacking route -- and in DE:HR the boss battles were notoriously down-thumbed cuz they were too... battley. So what do you do?

Buy a Wii U!

http://www.gogaminggiant.com/2013/03/20/exclusive-wii-u-release-deus-ex-hr-directors-cut/
"all three boss battles maps and strategical layouts have been rebuilt with new challenges and options that cater to those who play for Hacking or Stealth."

detailed features here: http://goo.gl/8JqXB


see also:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-20-deus-ex-human-revolution-directors-cut-for-wii-u-confirmed-and-yes-theyve-fixed-the-boss-battles

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/03/wii_u_version_of_deus_ex_will_be_the_ultimate_edition_of_the_game



and PS:

PAftw

as many speculated, and I just discovered/confirmed, the boss battles WERE INDEED developed by a separate group of FPS-loving folks who had no idea what the DE universe is all about...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-19-deus-ex-boss-battles-outsourced

[Mr. Analog]

Yeah, it kind of destroyed the challenge of the game, just dump all your points in run and gun and you're good to go.

I guess that's why I liked Hitman Absolution so much more than DE:R, it's all about evading direct conflict, which is a billion times more challenging and interesting

I'm currently waiting for Watch Dogs which looks absolutely like my kind of game, I'm actually really curious to see how they might use the Wii U controller because it would be awesome if some of the hacking/surveillance gadgets were in my hands and I was still aware of my surroundings on the big screen.

[Melbosa]

One of the reasons I like the Assassin Creed series as well, stealth and figuring out how to get the target without open conflict.

[Mr. Analog]

True dat

That reminds me, I gotta finish AC2 still!

[Melbosa]

Yeah you do.  I have AC3 in waiting for you (after I finished it )