I'm sure most of you have seen this already, but still... DO WANT:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html
- No exchange email support yet.
- Device built by HTC, my 6700 ended up sucking and they have been inconsistent
Well, consequently it's a lot cheaper than the even the cheapest iPhone (from what I gather).
$179 on contract vs $199 on contract.. Comes with 1 GB of storage expandable to 8GB instead of internal 8Gb, it does have a nice camera.
http://www.talkandroid.com/252-g1-product-guide-iphone-3g-comparison/
Another chart
http://gizmodo.com/5053717/how-the-t+mobile-g1-stacks-up-to-its-frienemies
Wow, if you have the money the HTC Pro kicks the butt right now (features wise).
I think the seller for the Android will be whatever apps can be developed for it, even though it's fairly gimped at the moment (missing Bluetooth et al).
You will have to go purchase a lot more storage for the HTC pro if you want to use it as an MP3 player, the MINIMUM storage on the iPhone is 8GB.
WM does a lot, however I had nothing but problems with it, the apps were a mish-mash and I had to get 3rd parties to fill in the blanks which made for a VERY inconsistent experience.
I want my phone to work, I want my email/calendar, I want to surf and I want to listen to music. Other than the browser crashing the iPod is still the best experience for getting all of these in one package.
I am surprised at the 6 HR battery life on the HTC pro.. I wonder if that holds up in the real world.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on September 23, 2008, 01:30:14 PM
I'm sure most of you have seen this already, but still... DO WANT:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html
T-Mobile G1 -- better than BlackBerry Storm AND Apple iPhone?
...almost (!)
http://www.crn.com/hardware/210800755
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Final scores: Apple iPhone 3G -- 6; T-Mobile G1 -- 5; BlackBerry Storm -- 3
...Granted, the iPhone 3G has been on the market now for three months and the T-Mobile G1 isn't expected to drop officially until Oct. 22. Currently, there is no set release date for the BlackBerry Storm. It's possible that once these devices enter the wild and get into users hands, the results could be different, but until they prove themselves, the Apple iPhone 3G is the true touch-screen titan.
Not the "winner", but still pretty impressive (http://www.crn.com/retail/210603348), especially considering the power of the Apple Marketing Machine :)
2.1 update coming...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/186768/googles_android_21_how_itll_change_your_phone.html
I'm really wondering if I should get one of these as my next phone (it would upset my Apple-fanatic brother too, bonus! ;) ) Some pretty cool functionality that the iPhone might be lacking... and apparently less "restrictive" in some ways.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184659-2/master_google_android_40_tips_and_tricks.html
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http://android-tips.com/
http://forum.androidcentral.com/
http://androidcommunity.com/forums
http://androidforums.com/
http://www.droidforums.net/
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^ funny how 10 years ago you would expect those kind of URLs to be dedicated to either Star Wars fans, or robotics enthusiasts...
Nexus one touch screen tests
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/iphone-beats-droid-and-nexus-one-in-touchscreen-accuracy-test-20100111/
Android Marketplace contained a phishing app
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/11/android_phishing_app/
Nexus One 3G issues
http://gizmodo.com/5445324/the-nexus-ones-3g-problem-pt-ii-the-damning-data
Nexus One Support issues (can't really call google or walk into a store)
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/186577/nexus_one_complaints_mount_honeymoon_is_over.html
No upgrades for first gen phones
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2009/11/26/first-generation-android-phones-not-getting-android-20/
Telus has the new Android-powered Motorola Backflip: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/04/28/tech-telus-android-motorola.html (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/04/28/tech-telus-android-motorola.html).
Some nice images can be found on telusmobility.com: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/motorola_backflip/index.shtml#product_gallery (http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/motorola_backflip/index.shtml#product_gallery).
The cool part about this phone is a full keyboard. The uncool part is that they tried to make it look exactly like an iPhone. The unknown part (to me) is what Android features have been locked by Telus - Apple's been able to tell companies they can't lock features, thanks to Apple's market share.
Quote from: Thorin on May 03, 2010, 10:30:28 AM
Telus has the new Android-powered Motorola Backflip: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/04/28/tech-telus-android-motorola.html (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/04/28/tech-telus-android-motorola.html).
Some nice images can be found on telusmobility.com: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/motorola_backflip/index.shtml#product_gallery (http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/motorola_backflip/index.shtml#product_gallery).
The cool part about this phone is a full keyboard. The uncool part is that they tried to make it look exactly like an iPhone. The unknown part (to me) is what Android features have been locked by Telus - Apple's been able to tell companies they can't lock features, thanks to Apple's market share.
Not entirely true, Apple controls which features are locked or limited based on the providers demands.. IE Lower quality video when streaming, capped app size downloads when on 3G, no tethering on AT&T still, delayed SMS support on AT&T, no VoIP over 3G until OS 4.0....
Then again it is MUCH more consistent than Android or Windows Mobile.. I hear some of the Android phones have their market place app replaced or an extra one from the ISP.
Quote from: Lazybones on May 03, 2010, 10:37:02 AM
Then again it is MUCH more consistent than Android or Windows Mobile...
Well, that's one way of saying "walled garden" (I keed, I keed :P )
I was reading about a guy who bought one of those unlocked Motorola Milestones and just plopped his Rogers simcard. Is that even possible?
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 03, 2010, 10:31:20 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on May 03, 2010, 10:37:02 AM
Then again it is MUCH more consistent than Android or Windows Mobile...
Well, that's one way of saying "walled garden" (I keed, I keed :P )
I was reading about a guy who bought one of those unlocked Motorola Milestones and just plopped his Rogers simcard. Is that even possible?
I haven't been keeping up on Android much as it still doesn't interest me much, but from what I understand the phones are sold locked and with software install limitations. You have to mod them to get unsigned app access and to unlock them.. not unlike the iPhone.. However since the OS is more open there are more mods for the OS.
There is a whole thread about users that went from iPhone to Android and Back.. The main issues being that the iPhone has a more consistent, smooth UI that does not slow down as well multi-tasking on android can kill the battery super quick.. later releases of android actually have a more restricted multi-tasking system that earlier ones.
I'd be much happier if I could just buy the handset and not have to get all of the locked in crap that Telus/Rogers/Apple/Etc put on there.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 04, 2010, 06:15:58 PM
I'd be much happier if I could just buy the handset and not have to get all of the locked in crap that Telus/Rogers/Apple/Etc put on there.
True unlocked iphones, androids, nokia etc smart phones retail for $500 - $1000. Compared to $200 on contract...
Quote from: Lazybones on May 04, 2010, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 04, 2010, 06:15:58 PM
I'd be much happier if I could just buy the handset and not have to get all of the locked in crap that Telus/Rogers/Apple/Etc put on there.
True unlocked iphones, androids, nokia etc smart phones retail for $500 - $1000. Compared to $200 on contract...
I'm aware of that. I look at it this way though, if the platform is solid and open then you could stick with it longer and its utility wouldn't be hampered by decisions made by someone else. Not to mention you'd be getting a service contract without paying for a handset, which I can only assume is cheaper.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 04, 2010, 11:12:03 PM
I'm aware of that. I look at it this way though, if the platform is solid and open then you could stick with it longer and its utility wouldn't be hampered by decisions made by someone else. Not to mention you'd be getting a service contract without paying for a handset, which I can only assume is cheaper.
1. the only reason anyone purchases an unlocked handset is so that they can go month to month or contract free and jump between providers or travel and pop in a pay as you go sim.. Contracts and rates are the same regardless if you get a phone.
2. 1 year in your device will still be supported, 2 years in the battery will start to fail but will probably still be available to replace, 3 years and your phone is so obsolete you will be looking for a new one anyway.
If you tend not to change providers anyway, contracts are actually the much cheaper way to go.
The only reason I haven't changed is because I'm locked into a 2 year contract and would rather not have to pay rogers (fido) extra just to cancel.
Probably go Wind with a Droid, G1 or a comparable phone. Or whatever I can most easily afford by the time my contract is up.
I guess the other thing is I want to play around with the Android SDK hehe
I played around with Andriod when it was first released. I bet its changed somewhat. At least I hope it has. It was kind of annoying.
Quote from: Tom on May 06, 2010, 07:09:18 AM
I played around with Andriod when it was first released. I bet its changed somewhat. At least I hope it has. It was kind of annoying.
From what I gather quite a bit has changed, and is a problem for some, there are a lot of different versions out in the wild now with their own little problems here and there.
Sounds about right. Platform fragmentation is fun.
Quote from: Tom on May 06, 2010, 09:16:35 AM
Sounds about right. Platform fragmentation is fun.
Flexibility has it's challenges, that's for sure.
Of coarse if you just find your self an old unlocked iPhone you can run both
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/blog/4333/
Here's the actual article with his seven minute video:
http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/
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This is a dual-booting system
wh-h-hat? A dual-booting phone?!
Quote from: Lazybones on May 06, 2010, 10:21:58 PM
Of coarse if you just find your self an old unlocked iPhone you can run both
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/blog/4333/
That is true!