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Title: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Melbosa on March 24, 2009, 08:41:52 AM
Original Broadcast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJn5XlbSFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcJn5XlbSFk)

And apology articles from everywhere:
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2009/03/23/redeye-soldiers-mocking.html (http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2009/03/23/redeye-soldiers-mocking.html)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29844507/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29844507/)
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2009/03/22/8847666-sun.html (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2009/03/22/8847666-sun.html)
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/606908 (http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/606908)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wfoxapology0323/BNStory/International/home (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wfoxapology0323/BNStory/International/home)
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Melbosa on March 24, 2009, 08:44:46 AM
Defense Minister's Comments Video: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wvmackay_fox0323/VideoStory/International/home?pid=RTGAM.20090323.wfoxapology0323 (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wvmackay_fox0323/VideoStory/International/home?pid=RTGAM.20090323.wfoxapology0323)

Rick Mercer's Comments: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wfoxmercer0323/BNStory/International/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090323.wfoxmercer0323/BNStory/International/)

Quote from: Rick MercerIf you're going to do satire, three of the most important rules are you have to tell the truth, you can't be a bully and don't be an asshole

I like that description.
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Melbosa on March 24, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
So what do you guys think of all of this?  Not that this guy is any big shot in the US, but really... really?  Are Americans that ignorant of the world around them?
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Thorin on March 24, 2009, 09:45:26 AM
These guys are Jon Stewart wannabes.  The problem is they don't know what to make fun of and what to leave alone, and they have no apparent sense of taste.

Quote from: Melbosa on March 24, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
Are Americans that ignorant of the world around them?

These Americans apparently are, but assuming three hundred million other Americans are ignorant based on these Americans' displayed attitudes is sort of ignorant in itself.  Not even every American on this show displayed ignorance - the reporter in the field tried to change the topic to how many soldiers have died in the Afghanistan conflict (from all countries, not just Canada or the US).

Ultimately, though, the best thing to do is just ignore the hullabaloo.  According to Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, everyone has the right to say what they want, even if it is somewhat offensive to others (although they're limited by hate-speech legislation).  And according to that same Charter, everyone has the right to completely ignore what someone else says.  And if they're not paid attention to, they'll fade into obscurity, like that woman, what's-her-name, the one that ran in the US's presidential election last year.
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Darren Dirt on March 24, 2009, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Melbosa on March 24, 2009, 08:51:44 AM
So what do you guys think of all of this?  Not that this guy is any big shot in the US, but really... really?  Are Americans that ignorant of the world around them?

Americans? Nope.

Fox Noise? YUP.
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Thorin on March 24, 2009, 03:44:19 PM
Some interesting reading about what kind of equipment the Canadian Forces has, written by an apparent insider and apparent military hardware expert:

http://www.casr.ca/bg-background.htm (http://www.casr.ca/bg-background.htm)

I've learned all kinds of new things about our military by spending some time there (like, for instance, that our JTF2 troops get special sidearms and semi-automatic shotguns).
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Tom on March 24, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
Its been my personal opinion that Fox and their base (ultra right conservatives) really are that stupid and inflammatory.
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Mr. Analog on March 25, 2009, 08:35:12 PM
Quote from: Tom on March 24, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
Its been my personal opinion that Fox and their base (ultra morons) really are that stupid and inflammatory.

Fixed that ;)
Title: Re: Fox News - Red Eye - Dises Canadian Military
Post by: Tom on March 25, 2009, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on March 25, 2009, 08:35:12 PM
Quote from: Tom on March 24, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
Its been my personal opinion that Fox and their base (ultra morons) really are that stupid and inflammatory.

Fixed that ;)
I thought that was implied? ;)