Well I saw this one today... and well... WOW!
This was as good as Wolverine, IMO, and was really a superb movie, standalone. But as a fan, it really shines (and as a fan, if it almost pisses you off to the point of leaving in the first 10 minutes just hang in there, there is a reason - and you'll know why when you see it). A great rebirth of the franchise, setting the scene for future movies and great adventures all over again. Should allow for a rejuvenation of the fan base and immersion IMO; not to say Star Trek was dead yet, as the last couple of movies have been just fine, but not that AWESOME, KICK ASS, FAN-FREAKIN-TASTIC as say Transformers or the fore mentioned X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I look forward to where the next movie (or maybe tv series) takes us next.
And the acting in this one is phenomenal. You can tell that either the actors were fans of the Star Trek universe, or they had some of the best coaches or are some of the best mimics in the biz! I won't spoil it by naming the favs of mine, as I wouldn't want to give anything away. But I must say almost each of the main character's actors hit the nail on the button, almost too uncannily so. Makes you do a double take more than once, at least it did with the group I saw it with today.
I urge fans of SCI-FI or ACTION films to watch this one. Being a Trekkie (of any degree) is just a bonus, with insider experiences that just add to the whole film.
I was going to go yesterday but I was in a pretty bad mood by the end of the day... and it looks like I won't get a chance today either.
I disagree, it was good, better than any of the ODD movies but other than that it just stands alone as something new. I keep seeing reviews saying it is amazing but I think it was just OK.
I could start ranting about the villain and his ship, but I will wait till others have seen it not to spoil the story.
Quote from: Melbosa on May 09, 2009, 12:13:28 AM
Well I saw this one today... and well... WOW!
This was as good as Wolverine, IMO, and was really a superb movie, standalone. But as a fan, it really shines (and as a fan, if it almost pisses you off to the point of leaving in the first 10 minutes just hang in there, there is a reason - and you'll know why when you see it). A great rebirth of the franchise
an opposing viewpoint... with a whole lotta "Trek Rebirth" defenders:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/board/nest/137465481
...it was real hard to skim this hilarious flame war without letting a few plot spoilers into my brain, however I am sure I will enjoy it when I see it anyway (possibly during this week after work -- anyone interested?)
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 10, 2009, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: Melbosa on May 09, 2009, 12:13:28 AM
Well I saw this one today... and well... WOW!
This was as good as Wolverine, IMO, and was really a superb movie, standalone. But as a fan, it really shines (and as a fan, if it almost pisses you off to the point of leaving in the first 10 minutes just hang in there, there is a reason - and you'll know why when you see it). A great rebirth of the franchise
an opposing viewpoint... with a whole lotta "Trek Rebirth" defenders:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/board/nest/137465481
...it was real hard to skim this hilarious flame war without letting a few plot spoilers into my brain, however I am sure I will enjoy it when I see it anyway (possibly during this week after work -- anyone interested?)
I need to hit up ST and Wolverine soon.
Chekov.
OMG Chekov.
The whole thing was pretty great, merits a second watching. I think it's one of the first movies I'll watch for the heroic characters rather than the villains.
I was completely shocked, I greatly enjoyed this film and encourage ALL nerds, geeks and basement dwellers to see it
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 14, 2009, 06:49:27 PM
I was completely shocked, I greatly enjoyed this film and encourage ALL nerds, geeks and basement dwellers to see it
Sir,
as a followup to our correspondence earlier in the week,
how does Monday sound to you? I believe an associate of mine, a young lad interested in the area of study we discussed, would greatly benefit from joining in our gathering, and considering the economic climate we all have the misfortune of enduring I believe the matinee timeline would be most logical from a financial point of view. Have your people email my people, if that is mutually acceptable.
yours,
D-man.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 17, 2009, 11:46:52 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 14, 2009, 06:49:27 PM
I was completely shocked, I greatly enjoyed this film and encourage ALL nerds, geeks and basement dwellers to see it
Sir,
as a followup to our correspondence earlier in the week,
how does Monday sound to you? I believe an associate of mine, a young lad interested in the area of study we discussed, would greatly benefit from joining in our gathering, and considering the economic climate we all have the misfortune of enduring I believe the matinee timeline would be most logical from a financial point of view. Have your people email my people, if that is mutually acceptable.
yours,
D-man.
You still up for later this week? The only snag is I'm on call so... I may have to bail at some point of the stupid pager goes off.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 19, 2009, 08:39:40 PM
You still up for later this week? The only snag is I'm on call so... I may have to bail at some point of the stupid pager goes off.
Yup, let me know if today or tomorrow is better for you, Dr. Analog.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 20, 2009, 08:28:55 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 19, 2009, 08:39:40 PM
You still up for later this week? The only snag is I'm on call so... I may have to bail at some point of the stupid pager goes off.
Yup, let me know if today or tomorrow is better for you, Dr. Analog.
Is today a go?
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 21, 2009, 08:35:51 AM
Quote from: Darren Dirt on May 20, 2009, 08:28:55 AM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on May 19, 2009, 08:39:40 PM
You still up for later this week? The only snag is I'm on call so... I may have to bail at some point of the stupid pager goes off.
Yup, let me know if today or tomorrow is better for you, Dr. Analog.
Is today a go?
No can do palorino
Rocked.
9/10 (losing 1 point due to the slow first 10 minutes, kinda reminded me of how T:S started off kinda slow ala "oh great, did this flashy young director just ruin a strong franchise?" then soon after "omg this is a great movie")
Ok, now that the whole gang has seen the movie I can talk about what I did not like. (SPOILERS for those that may be lurking)
- Car scene in the opening (nokia, stupid jump, stupid kid)
- Time travel, DAMMIT it is the most over use pliot item in Trek and this one blows away everything but the Enterprise series, which was also about time travel!
- Why is a stupid mining ship so power full? Just because it is from the future?
- Red matter (because neutrinos anti-matter and reversing polarity where getting old?)
- Why even bother drilling a hole why not release the red matter beside or on the planet, seems like it would suck it all in anyway.
- Handy release valve in the engine room which is Water cooled and has an unnecessary grinder in it. I think someone watched galaxy quest, because my brain screamed "this episode was poorly written
' when Scotty beamed into the water.
- Vulcan's and Vulcan children are dicks, just like in Enterprise
Agreed with most of what you said.
But it was FUNNY and EXCITING, it got my blood pumping which is what a Summer Movie is supposed to do (even in the often-cerebral universe of Sir Roddenberry). Plus they used the ST:TOS fight scene music, slightly modified, can't ask for much more respectful homage to the roots than that. 8)
Sure the early scene kid Kirk was annoying and stupidly had a death wish. But it let you know not to expect realism for the rest of the movie. i.e. Suspension of Disbelief Required warning sign shoulda been hung over ever seat, like a blanket. It was implied ;)
And PS: yeah well you need a big ship to hold such a big drill. And lotsa cool defensive weapons in case the Ferengi* greedy bastards want to steal the ore you just mined.
*Ferengi not guaranteed to appear in this version of the ST universe ???
Quote from: Lazybones on May 29, 2009, 04:07:38 PM
- Time travel, DAMMIT it is the most over use pliot item in Trek and this one blows away everything but the Enterprise series, which was also about time travel!
Yeah I figured someone would point this out. But I have to say, it was a good idea. [/ducks from thrown objects]
This is the only time I would say the time travel thing was worth it. Usually I am the first to say nay to the time travel. But here it made sense - now the series is remade, and no ties to future events has to be adhered to. They basically wiped the slate clean with this movie. With the time line altered:
- Who's to say the Klingon war even happens
- The Borg (despite what happened in Enterprise) may not even exist
- etc... I could keep going but you get the idea
The future of the shop and the universe is now unwritten. Frees up the creative license. I look forward to the next movie or series eagerly as anything goes!
Quote from: Melbosa on June 01, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
The future of the shop and the universe is now unwritten. Frees up the creative license. I look forward to the next movie or series eagerly as anything goes!
This.
Also, keep in mind that in "Enterprise" the entire first 2 seasons basically DIDN'T HAPPEN thanks to the magic of time travel! (or more specifically, helpful time travellers who tell you how to undo things)... Whereas in the movie I was totally expecting, but happily disappointed by the absence of, a bookend conclusion that had somebody go through the blacksingularwormholethingie and undo the entire movie... Hooray for risk-taking, wp Mr. Abrams gg.