Windows 11 TPM requirement, thoughts?

Mr. Analog · June 28, 2021, 02:37:00 PM

I was surprised to hear about this last week but apparently it's true

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Lazybones · June 28, 2021, 03:12:12 PM

Haven't looked into it much since it is a ways away.

We have been deploying bitlocker in our corporate machines for some time, it is a fairly common feature on moderately current hardware that windows 10 already makes use of.

For home custom built machines it is my understanding that you can get a small add on board to fill the requirement and likely new boards will just have it.

The TPM module is a bit of hardware that securely holds things like encryption keys. Something equivalent has been in every iOS devices since the iPhone 3G.

In windows it allows you to boot and sign in without an additional prompt to also decrypt the drive unlike older software, drive, bios encryption.

Mr. Analog · June 28, 2021, 03:17:23 PM

I just hope by then all my machines will be compatible, 2025 is still a long way off but still...

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Lazybones · June 28, 2021, 03:24:56 PM

Just checked my system (recently replaced my main board last year)

Check your manual for a TPM addon header..

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-GAMING-X-rev-10/sp#sp
1 x Trusted Platform Module (TPM) header (2x6 pin, for the GC-TPM2.0_S module only)

This is the addon module
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GC-TPM20_S#ov

Doing some googling it looks like my specific module costs between $36 and $50 CAD.

I just generally expect new boards to start shipping with it already on the board.

Too my earlier point, nearly all OEM machines sold for business like Dells and Microsoft Surface ETC have already had this hardware for a year or more now.

Mr. Analog · June 28, 2021, 03:53:42 PM

Interesting! I'll have to check it out.

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Mr. Analog · June 29, 2021, 02:39:08 PM

Interesting, Microsoft may be backpedaling on the TPM requirement...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-explains-windows-11-tpm-requirement/

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Melbosa · June 29, 2021, 06:25:30 PM

Yeah the computer I just built in May with a 2021 mobo and 11th gen CPU failed the TPM test but my other alienwares in the house past (desktop and laptop models). My comp I built in May may just be a bios change... but I haven't had the urge to reboot to check.

Lazybones · December 19, 2021, 02:53:36 PM

My board just got an update to enable this, apparently semi recent Intel and AMD chips already implement TPM 2.0 in the CPU and the BIOS just needs to enable support.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-No-Trusted-Platform-Module-Many-AMD-and-Intel-processors-can-run-Microsoft-s-new-OS-without-a-dedicated-TPM-2-0-chip.548267.0.html

Mr. Analog · December 19, 2021, 05:18:07 PM

My machine is from 2014 I'm pretty sure it's devoid of TPM.

I mean I should probably check just the same...

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Lazybones · December 19, 2021, 06:23:09 PM

Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 19, 2021, 05:18:07 PMMy machine is from 2014 I'm pretty sure it's devoid of TPM.

I mean I should probably check just the same...

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Looks like for intel chips it was Introduced around the 6th gen of the Core series in about 2016. Around that time or a little later for AMD.

Mr. Analog · December 19, 2021, 06:24:30 PM

Quote from: Lazybones on December 19, 2021, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Analog on December 19, 2021, 05:18:07 PMMy machine is from 2014 I'm pretty sure it's devoid of TPM.

I mean I should probably check just the same...

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Looks like for intel chips it was Introduced around the 6th gen of the Core series in about 2016. Around that time or a little later for AMD.

That's what I thought. Ah well

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Lazybones · December 19, 2021, 06:25:34 PM

Well 7-8 years is a long time in PC years.

Mr. Analog · December 19, 2021, 09:56:44 PM

Quote from: Lazybones on December 19, 2021, 06:25:34 PMWell 7-8 years is a long time in PC years.

True! Thanks to upgrades helping it limp along it's last forever! LOL

Melbosa · December 19, 2021, 11:22:12 PM

You can use Rufus to create an installer that bypasses the initial requirements: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/bypass-windows-11-tpm-requirement

And in the same article is a script you can run that will allow you to do Windows Updates to the latest build, bypassing the requirements every time there is a new build.

How long both of these will last as a viable option is up in the air, BUT it does appear to not crater you when you hit that requirement check, you just get a warning if you try to move forward with updates that you are running unsupported hardware.

Mr. Analog · December 20, 2021, 08:42:37 AM

Quote from: Melbosa on December 19, 2021, 11:22:12 PMYou can use Rufus to create an installer that bypasses the initial requirements: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/bypass-windows-11-tpm-requirement

And in the same article is a script you can run that will allow you to do Windows Updates to the latest build, bypassing the requirements every time there is a new build.

How long both of these will last as a viable option is up in the air, BUT it does appear to not crater you when you hit that requirement check, you just get a warning if you try to move forward with updates that you are running unsupported hardware.

Yeah I don't know how hacky I want to get with the current Windows ecology. I don't want to run afoul of Windows weirdness in a couple years time...

It wouldn't be the first time!

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