Osama bin Laden is Dead

[Mr. Analog]

Little comfort I know, but the prime catalyst for 10+ years of worldwide violence is dead and buried (at sea).

Burn in hell Osama!

[Darren Dirt]

a "different" point of view...


http://www.infowars.com/staged-osama-assassination-get-ready-for-more-war/

If the cheering crowd at midnight outside the White House is any indication, the American people are ready to support more mass murder in the Middle East.

The supposed hit on Osama -- without shred of evidence short of an image badly mangled in Photoshop that was debunked in short order -- will be used to reinvigorate the war on terror precisely at a time when new enemies are being manufactured in Africa.

In addition to providing additional momentum for the flagging war on terror, the staged assassination of a terrorist with ties to the CIA who died almost ten years ago serves to distract the easily distracted masses away from serious economic dangers, most notably the engineered fall of the dollar as the world's reserve currency and the related escalation of gas, food and commodity prices.

It is not certain if the government will use this unverified and unverifiable assassination -- now that we are told Osama was buried at sea -- as a pretext to engage in a false flag attack to further boost the wars and occupations abroad and expand the police state at home.

If the throng of chortling murder worshippers outside the White House last night is any indication of larger sentiment around the country in the wake of this fake assassination, it will not take much for the government to convince the people to support more mass murder in foreign lands and the continued debasement and destruction of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Oh, and btw...

http://www.infowars.com/inside-sources-bin-ladens-corpse-has-been-on-ice-for-nearly-a-decade/
http://www.infowars.com/media-runs-fake-photo-to-illustrate-bin-laden-death-propaganda/
http://www.infowars.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead%E2%80%A6-for-the-ninth-time/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/osama-bin-laden-has-been-dead-for-years.html

Just sayin'



http://www.infowars.com/government-says-osama-buried-at-sea/
lol "take our word for it, the wicked witch is dead!" (and remember to vote Conservative today, Canada! Nobody else protects you from terrorism like The Harper Government!"

enjoy the fantasy world the gubmint is nice enough to keep creating, folks... cheaper than buying comic books, just tune into CNN or FoxNoise and have at 'er!



...there, I feel better now...

[Mr. Analog]

Nice perspective there

[Darren Dirt]

not just mine.

http://www.infowars.com/media-runs-fake-photo-to-illustrate-bin-laden-death-propaganda/

from FBI counterterrorism official Dale Watson, to former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, to Pakistani icon Benazir Bhutto, to CFR members, to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, all voiced publicly what the evidence clearly indicated, which is that Bin Laden died in late 2001.

don't think for a minute that final "confirmation" of Osama's death will mean an end to the "war on terror" and U.S. troops pulling out of Afghanistan, just as the capture of Saddam Hussein did absolutely nothing to speed a U.S. exit out of Iraq.
If anything, the announcement of Osama's death will only lead to more warfare and bloodshed in the region. Whether genuine or contrived, terrorist retaliation plots are already in the works and when they are unleashed, the establishment will point to them as a justification for more air strikes, more invasions and more regime change plots disguised as humanitarian aid.

In life, Bin Laden's propaganda value as an Emmanuel Goldstein hate figure was immense, but in death his usefulness to the US military-industrial complex will, for a time at least, only increase.

even FoxNoise mentioned it back in 2001.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html




PS: that photo of "yesterday's" death of bin Laden? has been on the 'net for over a year:

http://www.a-w-i-p.com/years-of-deceit-us-openly-accepts-bin-la.html

YEARS OF DECEIT: US OPENLY ACCEPTS BIN LADEN LONG DEAD

11/04/10
http://www.a-w-i-p.com/media/blogs/articles/Articles6/osama_bin_laden_dead0001_1.jpg

[Mr. Analog]

How about DNA evidence:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/dna-evidence-proves-bin-ladens-death-with-99-per-cent-confidence/article2006541/

Or no wait, can't trust that either can ya

[Mr. Analog]

Anyway, on a lighter note:

Man Unknowingly Tweets the Osama Raid:
http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/05/02/1438254/Man-Unknowingly-Tweets-the-Osama-Raid

[Thorin]

Not having read the links you posted, Darren, I have to posit this question:

What are sites like infowars.com trying to achieve when they post stories that question the mainstream media or government reports?

I'm not saying the mainstream media is particularly believable, or even that government reports are full of truth, but if you're going to question them then you shouldn't blindly accept non-traditional news sources either just because they're speaking contrary to said government reports.  And from the tone of your posts in this thread, it appears that you have done so.

Back to the thread topic at hand - they should have kept the body and returned it to his family to show that Americans show respect for their enemies in death. 

Also, it's extremely scary to consider that we invaded Afghanistan for harbouring him, then that the US gave billions in military aid to Pakistan to help fight his terrorist network, and then he's found to be living in Pakistan in a nice house in a nice neighbourhood.  I don't think the US will attack Pakistan for harbouring a terrorist, or even sanction them.

[Stewie521]

Being the Mastermind he was, I'm pretty sure things will get worse from here on out. I'm sure he had a plan for when the Americans found and killed him, that is just something you don't leave out when you have a $50 million bounty on your head!

[Mr. Analog]

Well the thing you have to understand when it comes to political movements is that they are based on ideals and not so much people, while yes taking out a powerful individual can be important killing that person outright can turn them into a martyr for fanatics.

[Thorin]

The more I read about where he was living and how he was living, the less I think he was a mastermind and the more I think he was scared to death.  Living in a walled-up house, with only his closest, most trusted guards, with a multi-layered courier network instead of internet and email?  Seriously, he was still sending out letters hand-delivered by actual couriers, instead of using electronic communications?  Wow!  Talk about slow dissemination of information.

No, Osama Bin Laden had mostly become a figurehead of the organization; the guys really in charge are still out there.  And they're the ones that have been and will continue to plan attacks.

[Mr. Analog]

Reports: Computers seized at bin Laden compound
http://www.itworld.com/hardware/161511/reports-computers-seized-bin-laden-compound

[Thorin]

Yup, at the same time it says right in that article: Bin Laden had no telephone or internet connection.  So any order he wants to send, he has to send through a courier.  And since it's a multilayered couriering system, that courier has to hand off to at least one other before the order reaches the commander in the field.

Basically, he could tell a commander to begin an action but he couldn't change the course of that commander's actions once they started.  Compare that to Barack Obama, who was watching the raid in real-time video and could issue orders if needed directly to the men on the ground on the other side of the world.

[Mr. Analog]

Yep, with a structure like that data on those computers is going to be extremely valuable because for Osama it's going to have to be as comprehensive as possible to give him the "virtual eyes" he needs for his battlefield.

[Thorin]

His compound was built kinda like an old concentric castle:



source: http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2011/osama_bin_laden_compound/bin_laden_compound_13.jpg

[Mr. Analog]

Hah! It actually looks like a bad guy hideout you'd see in a kung fu movie or a low-rent spy flick.

What a fool he was though, everyone knows star forts are best forts (well, if you have cannons that is...)