Congress introduces bill to stop upcoming ban of Incandescent light bulbs

[Mr. Analog]

Congress introduces bill to stop upcoming ban of incandescent light bulbs
http://www.naturalnews.com/031070_incandescent_lights_2012.html

Huzzah! Say what you will but I love the warm glow of electrified tungsten!

[Lazybones]

Congress introduces bill to stop upcoming ban of incandescent light bulbs
http://www.naturalnews.com/031070_incandescent_lights_2012.html

Huzzah! Say what you will but I love the warm glow of electrified tungsten!

Even standard bulbs come in different colour temperatures and most energy efficient alternatives do as well, if you like that yellow glow there are alternatives... Given the power savings of Halogen, Compact florescent and LED lights I don't think I will be going back to the cheap quick to die hot wires.

[Mr. Analog]

You must have bad luck with light bulbs, in 4 years I've only had to change 6 bulbs at my place. (Both bedrooms and one in each hall light) I don't even remember when I bought the bulbs, I had an 8 pack from Costco that I bought for my apartment way back when, I don't even remember how much that cost it was so long ago.

As for magic-gas-burning bulbs, I for one care less for them but I'd rather let society choose with its money rather than some arbitrary Government meddling.

[Darren Dirt]

Huzzah! Say what you will but I love the warm glow of electrified tungsten!

I concur, old chap!

Here in Canada, DOLLAR STORE FTW! (Stock up while you can )

I'd rather let society choose with its money rather than some arbitrary Government meddling.

Careful now, you're spitting distance from falling into those dangerous libertarian waters...

[Mr. Analog]

haha

Screw this, I'm gonna build an objectivist paradise beneath the sea!

*puts on hip waders*

[Darren Dirt]

objectivist paradise beneath the sea

...this won't end well...

[Mr. Analog]

objectivist paradise beneath the sea

...this won't end well...

LOL

[Tom]

You must have bad luck with light bulbs, in 4 years I've only had to change 6 bulbs at my place. (Both bedrooms and one in each hall light) I don't even remember when I bought the bulbs, I had an 8 pack from Costco that I bought for my apartment way back when, I don't even remember how much that cost it was so long ago.

As for magic-gas-burning bulbs, I for one care less for them but I'd rather let society choose with its money rather than some arbitrary Government meddling.

My place came with CFL bulbs everywhre. I'v been here for over 5 years, and haven't had to replace a single bulb.

[Lazybones]

Think of it this way, if you have a 3 light fixture or 3 lamps in your room where you are using your PC that is 3x60W or 3x100W

Now look back at my post about power usage WAY back:
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,2175.msg14377.html#msg14377

LCD
W (Max):25.00
PC
W (Max):111.00

Those three average light bulbs are not doing much accept burning power.

Basically EVERYONE uses light bulbs.. so targeting them to force change makes a lot of sense when your countries power grid is facing rolling blackouts at peak times!
http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led%20comp%20chart.html

Key problems:
CFL = disposal issues
LED = still too expensive and also hard to get anything brighter than a 40W-60W equivalent
Halogen = Expensive and fragile like incandescent

[Mr. Analog]

To me it seems like treating the symptom and not the disease though; build new, more efficient power stations.

[Lazybones]

To me it seems like treating the symptom and not the disease though; build new, more efficient power stations.

You still need to use less power per person as your population increases so that the growth rate is reasonable... You need a bit of both.

And they have been working on Molten Salt Solar in Navada... very interesting stuff... Stores up energy during the day that can be released at night.

[Thorin]

http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led%20comp%20chart.html

Thanks, very useful chart.  LEDs really are the way to go.  No mercury AND lowest power consumption of the three.  Having had multi-bulb LED flashlights at home, I can say that they're surprisingly bright.

As for building more power stations, the US is trying to become less dependent on foreign energy sources (especially oil) and trying to pollute the air less (especially through burning coal), so they want to reduce energy consumption.

Of course, the CFL push was done by environmentalists who didn't stop to consider the _downside_ of CFLs - the mercury content.  Blinders, baby!

[Mr. Analog]

If they lifted the ban on new nuclear power plants all this wouldn't be a problem...

[Lazybones]

If they lifted the ban on new nuclear power plants all this wouldn't be a problem...

I suspect the Tsunami in Japan will help keep that from ever happening... A report released after shows that not only are most US plans not rated for earth quakes that big but they are almost all in disrepair as where the Japan ones.

[Mr. Analog]

The US nuclear plants are all 70s vintage and older thanks the 3 Mile Island. incredible leaps in nuclear power technology over the last 30 years should not only replace current plants but could also reprocess the waste of the existing plants (some of which are well over their operational lifetime).

Currently there are talks of re-opening the Yucca Flats dry storage facility. This is a smart move as one thing Fukishima (and power plants in Washington and Georga) has showed us is that liquid bath storage of nuclear fuel, if breached, is incredibly dangerous (i.e. fallout everywhere).