Not one, Not Two, but THREE yes THREE Hobbit Films

[Mr. Analog]

I remember watching Dr. Who when they made the transition from film to VTR and it was jarring even on a small screen.

[Thorin]

Hmm, I don't remember that.  When did they switch it?

[Mr. Analog]

Hmm, I don't remember that.  When did they switch it?

5th Doctor (Peter Davidson) back in the early 80s.

It changed the video quality.

It got worse with 7th Doctor (Sylvester McCoy)

[Darren Dirt]

so... for anyone who has seen this film (which my son tells me was fantastic) I gotta ask:

Is there a whole lotta walking like in LOTR?

[Mr. Analog]

I haven't seen it yet myself but one friend I have indicated that yes, there is a lot of long sweeping cinematography (aka "walking").

[Darren Dirt]

http://www.bite.ca/bitedaily/2012/12/peter-jackson-is-confused-that-the-hobbit-is-bombing/



Well, no matter how disappointed the fans** or critics, at least Jackson can say it's no Tim Burton re[make/boot/invention] of Dark Shadows. (Then again, Burton didn't need fans to create a flowchart to explain how to tell characters apart.)






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Frank Badura  billbillbillbill ? 24 days ago −
Read the books. You cannot fully appreciate how mediocre this movie is unless you see Tolkien's grace. I mean, seriously, they just botched the execution, took liberties and overall, screwed with it. The sad thing is that the people who made the twilight movies made the effort to stay true to the book (well twilight is more of a very long and bad magazine), yet Peter Jackson didn't pay the same respect to a better book with more intellectual, precise fans who unlike twilight fans, are actually deserving of respect.
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Cruz Cruzer  Frank Badura ? 24 days ago
A guy who who read Twilight is badmouthing the Hobbit...
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Frank Badura  Cruz Cruzer ? 24 days ago
I liked the hobbit book, the lotr trilogy, and the silmarillion I was taking a subtle shot at twilight fans while pointing out that it's infuriating that baktagh like twilight gets more respect than the hobbit.


"Often in The Hobbit, there's a spectacular amount of crap happening on-screen. For all its wild action, there's very little actual tension ... I don't make the comparison lightly, but too often in The Hobbit Jackson falls into the same traps George Lucas did while making the Star Wars prequels. He confuses action with excitement, and the result is a film devoid of tension, with no risk and therefore no payoff. It was almost exactly as satisfying and dramatically engaging as watching a stranger play a video game."

dang.

[Mr. Analog]

I'd hardly call The Hobbit a "bomb"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/business

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit:_An_Unexpected_Journey#Reception

Box office
As of January 6, 2013 An Unexpected Journey has grossed $263,820,000 in the United States and Canada and $561,820,000 elsewhere, bringing to a worldwide total of $824,820,000.[2] It is thus far the fifth highest-grossing film of 2012,[68] and the 34th highest-grossing film of all time.[69] It scored a worldwide opening weekend of $222.6 million,[70] including $15.1 million from 452 IMAX theaters around the world, which was an IMAX opening-weekend record for December.[71]

[Mr. Analog]

Additionally I think the hate stems from two main points:

-Increased film speed in the 3D version
-Stretching it out over 3 films

Both of which are absurd.

As for the elephant in the room, the Lord of the Rings books are far better than the films, but that's a matter of opinion, and yet both can be enjoyed.

I'll reserve judgement / mockery until after I've seen 'em

[Darren Dirt]

Additionally I think the hate stems from two main points:

-Increased film speed in the 3D version

The usually-funny "Half In The Bag" guys did an actually really serious, intellectually fascinating discussion/analysis of the experience of watching 48fps projected film, compared to normal 24fps film (and 30fps video)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFh6c_CwdBg#t=22m5s (until ~27 minutes)
bottom line:
-less motion blur
-more clarity in the image
-since neither one of those is "normal" ot our brains, this change makes it incredibly difficult for our minds to focus on what's going on when there's any kind of complex action sequence, especially if the camera is not still (and even makes normal walking/running look "weird")