Congress introduces bill to stop upcoming ban of incandescent light bulbs
http://www.naturalnews.com/031070_incandescent_lights_2012.html
Huzzah! Say what you will but I love the warm glow of electrified tungsten!
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 11, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Congress introduces bill to stop upcoming ban of incandescent light bulbs
http://www.naturalnews.com/031070_incandescent_lights_2012.html
Huzzah! Say what you will but I love the warm glow of electrified tungsten!
Even standard bulbs come in different colour temperatures and most energy efficient alternatives do as well, if you like that yellow glow there are alternatives... Given the power savings of Halogen, Compact florescent and LED lights I don't think I will be going back to the cheap quick to die hot wires.
You must have bad luck with light bulbs, in 4 years I've only had to change 6 bulbs at my place. (Both bedrooms and one in each hall light) I don't even remember when I bought the bulbs, I had an 8 pack from Costco that I bought for my apartment way back when, I don't even remember how much that cost it was so long ago.
As for magic-gas-burning bulbs, I for one care less for them but I'd rather let society choose with its money rather than some arbitrary Government meddling.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 11, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Huzzah! Say what you will but I love the warm glow of electrified tungsten!
I concur, old chap!
Here in Canada, DOLLAR STORE FTW! (Stock up while you can ;) )
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 11, 2011, 09:13:06 PM
I'd rather let society choose with its money rather than some arbitrary Government meddling.
Careful now, you're spitting distance from falling into those dangerous libertarian waters...
haha :D
Screw this, I'm gonna build an objectivist paradise beneath the sea!
*puts on hip waders*
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 12, 2011, 10:48:44 AM
objectivist paradise beneath the sea
...this won't end well...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 11, 2011, 09:13:06 PM
You must have bad luck with light bulbs, in 4 years I've only had to change 6 bulbs at my place. (Both bedrooms and one in each hall light) I don't even remember when I bought the bulbs, I had an 8 pack from Costco that I bought for my apartment way back when, I don't even remember how much that cost it was so long ago.
As for magic-gas-burning bulbs, I for one care less for them but I'd rather let society choose with its money rather than some arbitrary Government meddling.
My place came with CFL bulbs everywhre. I'v been here for over 5 years, and haven't had to replace a single bulb.
Think of it this way, if you have a 3 light fixture or 3 lamps in your room where you are using your PC that is 3x60W or 3x100W
Now look back at my post about power usage WAY back:
http://forums.righteouswrath.com/index.php/topic,2175.msg14377.html#msg14377
LCD
W (Max):25.00
PC
W (Max):111.00
Those three average light bulbs are not doing much accept burning power.
Basically EVERYONE uses light bulbs.. so targeting them to force change makes a lot of sense when your countries power grid is facing rolling blackouts at peak times!
http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led%20comp%20chart.html
Key problems:
CFL = disposal issues
LED = still too expensive and also hard to get anything brighter than a 40W-60W equivalent
Halogen = Expensive and fragile like incandescent
To me it seems like treating the symptom and not the disease though; build new, more efficient power stations.
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 12, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
To me it seems like treating the symptom and not the disease though; build new, more efficient power stations.
You still need to use less power per person as your population increases so that the growth rate is reasonable... You need a bit of both.
And they have been working on Molten Salt Solar in Navada... very interesting stuff... Stores up energy during the day that can be released at night.
Quote from: Lazybones on July 12, 2011, 02:16:06 PM
http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led%20comp%20chart.html
Thanks, very useful chart. LEDs really are the way to go. No mercury AND lowest power consumption of the three. Having had multi-bulb LED flashlights at home, I can say that they're surprisingly bright.
As for building more power stations, the US is trying to become less dependent on foreign energy sources (especially oil) and trying to pollute the air less (especially through burning coal), so they want to reduce energy consumption.
Of course, the CFL push was done by environmentalists who didn't stop to consider the _downside_ of CFLs - the mercury content. Blinders, baby!
If they lifted the ban on new nuclear power plants all this wouldn't be a problem...
Quote from: Mr. Analog on July 12, 2011, 03:11:28 PM
If they lifted the ban on new nuclear power plants all this wouldn't be a problem...
I suspect the Tsunami in Japan will help keep that from ever happening... A report released after shows that not only are most US plans not rated for earth quakes that big but they are almost all in disrepair as where the Japan ones.
The US nuclear plants are all 70s vintage and older thanks the 3 Mile Island. incredible leaps in nuclear power technology over the last 30 years should not only replace current plants but could also reprocess the waste of the existing plants (some of which are well over their operational lifetime).
Currently there are talks of re-opening the Yucca Flats dry storage facility. This is a smart move as one thing Fukishima (and power plants in Washington and Georga) has showed us is that liquid bath storage of nuclear fuel, if breached, is incredibly dangerous (i.e. fallout everywhere).
LEDs ftw.
Increase demand and reduce costs, bye bye CFL.
and afaik halogen are mega heat producers, and hazardous.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on July 12, 2011, 04:21:21 PM
LEDs ftw.
Increase demand and reduce costs, bye bye CFL.
and afaik halogen are mega heat producers, and hazardous.
They have started stuffing the halogen element inside glass shaped for traditional bulbs.. What you get is a bulb that acts very close to that of the traditional bulb but for hits heat and light output is about %25 more efficient.
Go look at the chandler bulb options... the LED ones are nasty looking, there are few if any CFL options but the halogen ones fit in almost perfectly and look almost exactly the same when lit.
I've seen those halogen bulbs, I like them as an alternative for sure
Quote from: Lazybones on July 12, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
They have started stuffing the halogen element inside glass shaped for traditional bulbs.. What you get is a bulb that acts very close to that of the traditional bulb but for hits heat and light output is about %25 more efficient.
Go look at the chandler bulb options... the LED ones are nasty looking, there are few if any CFL options but the halogen ones fit in almost perfectly and look almost exactly the same when lit.
news to me, thanks for that.
behind the times old fart is behind the times.
Quote from: Darren Dirt on July 13, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: Lazybones on July 12, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
They have started stuffing the halogen element inside glass shaped for traditional bulbs.. What you get is a bulb that acts very close to that of the traditional bulb but for hits heat and light output is about %25 more efficient.
Go look at the chandler bulb options... the LED ones are nasty looking, there are few if any CFL options but the halogen ones fit in almost perfectly and look almost exactly the same when lit.
news to me, thanks for that.
behind the times old fart is behind the times.
I am guessing you haven't shopped for light bulbs in a VERY long time... They are most common for the odd bulbs that CFL can't replace well, like the candle shaped lights, the large round clear bulbs in some bathroom mirror fixtures as well as dim-able lights...
They are also great if you want MORE light but only have one 60 or 100W fixture since they give off much more light at those W.
I read that the dimmable LEDs are getting better.
Oh good it's not just me fear-mongering
http://www.ehow.com/list_6525988_dangers-curly-fluorescent-light-bulbs.html